The Thriving Lawyers Podcast
Chris Osborn
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Welcome to "The Thriving Lawyers Podcast, brought to you by ReelTime Creative Learning Experiences and the Thriving Lawyers Collective!
Join us each week for candid, but ultimately inspiring conversation with lawyers from around the U.S. and Canada (and maybe points beyond) who have found ways to truly thrive in the practice of law.
We may even discuss a movie or two, on our never-ending quest for inspiration, motivation, and practical solutions. (That is how Reel Time got started, after all!)
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Thriving...While Being A Video Evangilist
In this week's episode, join Michael Kahn for a discussion with Elisabeth Steele, JD, who teaches educators and "lawyer types" to connect with virtual audiences. Michael and Elisabeth also discuss her DEI work. Stay in Elisabeth's loop >>
LinkedIn
Facebook
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Elisabethsteele.com
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May 26, 2022
Thriving by being a good (hu)man | Part 2
In this week's episode, join Michael Kahn for part 2 of a discussion with Mike Kasdan, JD, about his refreshing approach to lawyering which includes, self-awareness, vulnerability, authenticity, and humane leadership.
Stay in Mike's loop >>
Twitter: @law_while_human
Instagram: zen.mayhem
Facebook: Zen Mayhem: Lawyering While Human Group
Website: www.lawyeringwhilehuman.com (under construction)
Email: mike@lawyeringwhilehuman.com
LinkedIn: Mike Kasdan
The Good Men Project: www.goodmenproject.com
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May 12, 2022
Thriving by being a good (hu)man| Part 1
In this week's episode, join Michael Kahn for part 1 of a discussion with Mike Kasdan, JD, about his refreshing approach to lawyering which includes, self-awareness, vulnerability, authenticity, and humane leadership.
Stay in Mike's loop >>
Twitter: @law_while_human
Instagram: zen.mayhem
Facebook: Zen Mayhem: Lawyering While Human Group
Website: www.lawyeringwhilehuman.com (under construction)
Email: mike@lawyeringwhilehuman.com LinkedIn: Mike Kasdan The Good Men Project www.goodmenproject.com
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Apr 28, 2022
Thriving by finding a more humane, conscious and authentic approach to practicing law | Part 2
Join Michael Kahn for part two of a wide-ranging discussion with J. Kim Wright, integrative lawyer, author, innovator, and systems change agent.
Stay in J. Kim Wright's Loop >>
LinkedIn:
https://www..linkedin.com/in/jkimwright
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/cuttingedgelaw
Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/cuttingedgelaw
www.jkimwright.com www.cuttingedgelaw.com www.consciouscontracts.com consciouscoach.com
www.integrativelaw.com
Co-Editor: Trauma-Informed Law: A Primer for Practicing Lawyers (2022, ABA)
Author: Lawyers as Peacemakers (ABA, 2010); Lawyers as Changemakers (ABA, 2016)
Contributor: The Best Lawyer You Can Be: A Guide to Physical, Mental, Emotional, and Spiritual Wellness by Stewart Levine (ABA, 2018)
50 Lessons for Women Lawyers - From Women Lawyers: Career and Life Lessons From 50 Successful Women Lawyers by Nora Riva Bergman (Berroco Canyon Publishing, 2019) and several other books. See: https://www.cuttingedgelaw.com/publications/
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Apr 14, 2022
Thriving by finding a more humane, conscious and authentic approach to practicing law | Part 1
Join Michael Kahn for part one of a wide-ranging discussion with J. Kim Wright, integrative lawyer, author, innovator, and systems change agent.
Stay in J. Kim Wright's Loop >>
www.jkimwright.com www.cuttingedgelaw.com www.consciouscontracts.com consciouscoach.com
www.integrativelaw.com
Co-Editor: Trauma-Informed Law: A Primer for Practicing Lawyers (2022, ABA)
Author: Lawyers as Peacemakers (ABA, 2010); Lawyers as Changemakers (ABA, 2016)
Contributor: The Best Lawyer You Can Be: A Guide to Physical, Mental, Emotional, and Spiritual Wellness by Stewart Levine (ABA, 2018)
50 Lessons for Women Lawyers - From Women Lawyers: Career and Life Lessons From 50 Successful Women Lawyers by Nora Riva Bergman (Berroco Canyon Publishing, 2019) and several other books. See: https://www.cuttingedgelaw.com/publications/
LinkedIn: https://www..linkedin.com/in/jkimwright
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/cuttingedgelaw
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cuttingedgelaw
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Mar 24, 2022
Thriving as a Law Student and Law Professor (and a Practicing Lawyer too!) | Part 2
In this week's episode, join Michael Kahn for part 2 of an enlightening and hopeful interview with Shailini Jandial George, Professor of Legal Writing at Suffolk University Law School.
Stay in Shailini George's loop >>
https://www.suffolk.edu/academics/faculty/s/j/sjgeorge
Twitter: @ShailiniG
Instagram: lawyer_wellbeing
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Mar 10, 2022
Thriving as a Law Student and Law Professor (and a Practicing Lawyer too!) | Part 1
In this week's episode, join Michael Kahn for part 1 of an enlightening and hopeful interview with Shailini Jandial George, Professor of Legal Writing at Suffolk University Law School.
Stay in Shailini George's loop >>
https://www.suffolk.edu/academics/faculty/s/j/sjgeorge
Twitter: @ShailiniG
Instagram: lawyer_wellbeing
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Feb 21, 2022
Thriving... In the Aftermath of a Crisis, THREE TIMES! | Part 2
In this week's episode, join Chris Osborn for part 2 of a lively and inspiring interview with Winter Wheeler, a wonderful, winsome, and winning litigator from Atlanta, who picked a paralyzing pandemic period to pivot her practice to all mediation and strike out on her own. You'll hear how she drew upon past experiences when life had thrown her some major curveballs (such as navigating Hurricane Katrina while at law school in New Orleans!) to once again persevere and prosper in spite of a perplexing predicament. Pooped parents will also appreciate her pronouncements on maintaining proper perspective about your performance.
Stay in Winter Wheeler's Loop!
https://www.winterwheeler.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/winterwheeler/
https://www.instagram.com/themediatenow/
https://znap.link/themediatenow
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeoSy7ydQuLh_o7CwHPozw
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Feb 3, 2022
Thriving... While Managing The Well-Being of a Law Firm | Part 2
Join Michael Kahn for part 2 of his informative and lively interview with Katherine Adamenko, the Manager of Well-being for Ropes & Gray, an international law firm with 1400 lawyers.
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Jan 20, 2022
Thriving... While Managing The Well-Being of a Law Firm | Part 1
Join Michael Kahn for an informative and lively interview with Katherine Adamenko, the Manager of Well-being for Ropes & Gray, an international law firm with 1400 lawyers.
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Jan 6, 2022
Thriving... While Overcoming Addiction To The Status Quo
Join Michael Kahn for an informative and thought-provoking interview with Kathryn Burmeister, an unconventional, animal-loving lawyer, author, and speaker.
Connect with Kathryn on her various social media accounts!
* https://kathrynfburmeister.com
* https://www.instagram.com/kfburmeister
* https://www.linkedin.com/in/kfburmeister/
* https://www.facebook.com/kfburmeisterllc
* https://bit.ly/OSQbook
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Oct 1, 2021
Thriving... In the Aftermath of a Crisis, THREE TIMES! | Part 1
Join Chris Osborn for a lively and inspiring interview with Winter Wheeler, a wonderful, winsome, and winning litigator from Atlanta, who picked a paralyzing pandemic period to pivot her practice to all mediation and strike out on her own. You'll hear how she drew upon past experiences when life had thrown her some major curveballs (such as navigating Hurricane Katrina while at law school in New Orleans!) to once again persevere and prosper in spite of a perplexing predicament. Pooped parents will also appreciate her pronouncements on maintaining proper perspective about your performance.
Stay in Winter Wheeler's Loop >>
https://www.winterwheeler.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/winterwheeler/ https://www.instagram.com/themediatenow/ https://znap.link/themediatenow https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeoSy7ydQuLh_o7CwHPozw
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Sep 16, 2021
Thriving... While Navigating Life after a Wrongful Conviction | Part 2
Welcome back to the Thriving Lawyers Podcast. In this week’s episode, Michael Kahn, one half of the Thriving Lawyers Podcast, finishes up his interview with Ricky Kidd, a man wrongfully accused of murder.
Ricky discusses the coping tools he has accessed both in prison and since his release. He also expands on the projects he has launched to educate the public about the many flaws in the justice system and to inspire the implementation of changes. Included in the interview is Ricky’s discussion about the importance of lawyer wellbeing and how it impacted his representation negatively and positively.
More information and resources >>
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Sep 3, 2021
Thriving... While Navigating Life after a Wrongful Conviction
In this week's episode of The Thriving Lawyer's Podcast, Michael Kahn interviews Ricky Kidd, a Kansas City man who was wrongfully convicted of a 1996 double homicide.
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Aug 12, 2021
Thriving...While Mindfully Managing Technology Part 2
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Aug 5, 2021
Thriving...While Mindfully Managing Technology
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Feb 26, 2021
Thriving...In Spite of Vicarious Trauma and Grueling Work
In Part 2 of our interview with Prof., Sean O'Brien, you'll learn more about how this veteran innocence and exoneration lawyer navigates one of the most gut-wrenching and yet rewarding practice areas there is, and manages to fight on another day at a time..
Tune in to hear about the toll that Prof. O'Brien's lifelong labor of criminal appellate work took on him ,and how he learned to persevere and practice better self-care--even with the highest stakes imaginable, his clients' lives hanging in the balance. If he can do it, maybe we can too!
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Jan 26, 2021
Thriving...with the Help of Law Firm Leadership, Mentors, & Coaches
Michael sits down with Allison Wolf, founder of ShiftWorks Coaching for Lawyers (https://thelawyercoach.com/). She is also the publisher of the law blog “Attorney With A Life," and has co-presented with Michael on a number of occasions.
Tune in for a lively, frank, and insightful conversation about the unique challenges lawyers face in juggling the many roles they play, and some practical tips and strategies that you can utilize in any practice setting, at any stage of your career.
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Jan 14, 2021
Thriving... by Putting Your Oxygen Mask on First, So You Can Do The Best Work
In Part 2 of our interview with Alexis Robertson, Director of D&I for Foley & Lardner, LLP, Alexis provides insights from her work as a D&I professional--with some real gems of wisdom on the key ingredients that make D&I training actually effective.
We also discuss the crucial role that personal well-being and self care play-- not only for doing the hard work of fostering genuine and meaningful inclusion, but for thriving as professionals in demanding practices.
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Jan 7, 2021
Thriving… While Navigating Early Career Choices
Join us for Part 1 of our interview with the intrepid, engaging, insightful, and introspective Alexis Robertson, Director of Diversity and Inclusion for national law firm Foley & Lardner, LLP. You'll be inspired, encouraged, and moved as you hear about her career development as a BigLaw labor & employment litigator, a top shelf legal recruiter, and her current gig as a DE&I professional.
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Aug 21, 2020
Thriving... While Fighting Systemic Racism and Injustice
This week, Michael Kahn interviews Sean O'Brien, Professor at Clinical Program Director at the University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law.
In pt. 1, Sean shares some of the struggles he faces in representing innocent persons on death row. He describes the immense stress & pressures that come with the work, the challenges of battling the appalling injustices that many people encounter, and how he has been able to keep at it for all these years.
Come back next week for pt. 2!
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Jul 31, 2020
Thriving... by Utilizing Mindfulness Daily Pt. 2
Join us for part 2 of Michael Kahn's interview with Cheyne Scott, Partner at Chasan Lamparello Mallon & Cappuzzo, PC.
In the second part of this interview, Michael and Cheyne dive into the importance of accepting and internalizing thoughts and emotions and taking a moment to analyze their source; especially the ones that are unexpected and negative. Cheyne also talks about coping mechanisms and shares some of her favorites. Plus, this episode comes with plenty of book recommendations!
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Jul 23, 2020
Thriving... by Utilizing Mindfulness Daily
Listen to part 1 of Michael Kahn's interview with Cheyne Scott, Partner at Chasan Lamparello Mallon & Cappuzzo, PC.
In this episode, Cheyne shares some of her personal experiences dealing with the immense stress of being a lawyer and how she found peace and relief through the practice of mindfulness. Michael and Cheyne also discuss the power of mindset and the importance of focusing only on useful thoughts.
Join us next week for part 2!
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Jul 17, 2020
Thriving... in Romantic & Family Relationships Pt. 2
Listen to part 2 of, "Put Away Your Legal Pad: How to Stop Litigating Ourselves out of Good Relationships," excerpted from a webinar that ReelTime presented in conjunction with the ABA during Lawyer Wellbeing Week in May 2020.
Special guests include Wendy Osborn (wife of Chris and a counseling intern in her own right), and ReelTime Affiliate and dear friend Dr. Andrea Cochran (D. Psych.). Tune in for a lively, humorous, and insightful exploration of common challenges that many lawyers face in their interpersonal relationships, the deeper sources of these issues, and practical strategies for not over-lawyering the people we love.
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Jul 10, 2020
Thriving... in Romantic & Family Relationships
Join us for a 2 part series called, "Put Away Your Legal Pad: How to Stop Litigating Ourselves out of Good Relationships," excerpted from a webinar that ReelTime presented in conjunction with the ABA during Lawyer Wellbeing Week in May 2020.
Special guests include Wendy Osborn (wife of Chris and a counseling intern in her own right), and ReelTime Affiliate and dear friend Dr. Andrea Cochran (D. Psych.). Tune in for a lively, humorous, and insightful exploration of common challenges that many lawyers face in their interpersonal relationships, the deeper sources of these issues, and practical strategies for not over-lawyering the people we love
Come back next week for part 2!
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Jul 2, 2020
Thriving… as a Black Lawyer in a Tense Time of Protest and Unrest Pt. 2
In this second part of Michael Kahn's interview with Sidney Evering, they dive deeper into the issues surrounding the #BlackLivesMatter movement. You won't want to miss Sidney's poignant observations about what he believes to be the core problem in racial disparities experienced by people of color. Sidney also offer insights into his own experiences as a lawyer of color, and into how he manages to stay hopeful even in the face of continuing challenges and disappointments.
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Jun 25, 2020
Thriving… as a Black Lawyer in a Tense Time of Protest and Unrest
This week Michael Kahn interviews Sidney Evering, a partner in the Columbia, SC office of Parker Poe Adams & Bernstein LLP, and former chair of the firm’s Diversity Committee. Tune in for Sidney’s poignant and powerful observations on the national outpouring of response to the deaths of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery, as well as the increasing light being shined on persistent racial disparities in the American justice system. In part 1, Michael and Sidney cover topics including police brutality, the prevalence of implicit biases, and the many challenges of being a person of color in today’s society. Make sure not to miss part 2 next week.
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Jun 11, 2020
Thriving... Through Telling Your Story
Listen to this week's episode as Michael Kahn interviews Jay Reeves, the owner of Your Law Life LLC, helping lawyers and firms add purpose, profits and peace of mind in their law lives, and author of "The Most Powerful Attorney in the World." Jay shares the power and importance of telling your story (and telling it the right way!) and how it can have an immense impact on each individual and the people around them.
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Jun 4, 2020
Thriving… From the C-Suite AND the Dinette Suite Pt. 2
In this second part of this interview, Sigalle Barness, author of Chief Operating Mommy blog at COO of Lawline, talks with Michael and Chris about the challenges of being a parent, spouse, and legal professional. Sigalle shares candidly about some of the commitments and sacrifices she has had to make in order to successfully grow and sustain her family, career, and personal well-being.
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May 28, 2020
Thriving… From the C-Suite AND the Dinette Suite
Today’s guest is our dear friend and ACLEA colleague, Sigalle Barness, Chief Operating Officer of Lawline.com, a nationwide provider of continuing legal education content. In part 1, with her trademark warmth, intellect, and humor, Sigalle shares about her experiences as a baby lawyer, a baby mama, and in helping launch and grow a baby legal education startup. Tune in to hear some of the lessons she has learned from navigating a fast-paced and rewarding law related career and while navigating health challenges and folding two new babies into the mix. (Plus dealing with a pandemic. Yep.)
Join us next week for part 2!
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May 21, 2020
Thriving… During a Pandemic
In this second part of Michael Kahn’s interview with Cedric Ashley, they discuss some of the impacts that COVID-19 has been having on lawyers in their personal and professional lives. Cedric shares some ways to make the most out of the crisis and get through it with a positive and transformative mindset. Also listen as Cedric offers several important points to ponder for any lawyer struggling with career dissatisfaction.
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May 14, 2020
Thriving… While Searching for Career Satisfaction
Michael Kahn interviews Cedric Ashley, a solo attorney and founder of the Ashley Law Firm in Princeton, New Jersey. Cedric spends a copious amount of time working with lawyers and helping them find meaning and satisfaction in their careers and life. In Part I of the interview, Michael and Cedric discuss the importance of finding a job or practice setting that aligns with your personal values in order to enhance overall quality of life.
Join us next week for part 2!
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May 7, 2020
Thriving…While Acclimating to Life as a New Lawyer
Michael Kahn interviews Alison Cowan, senior director of professional development at Fasken, a leading international law firm based out of Toronto, CA. Alison talks about the importance of cultivating a healthy culture in law firms. She also addresses the challenges that many lawyers go through during the different transition periods of their careers and how to make those shifts easier and less daunting.
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Apr 30, 2020
Thriving… While Surrounded by Self-doubt
Part 2 of Michael’s interview with Derek LaCroix, Executive Director of the Lawyers Assistance Program of British Columbia, explores some of the negative mindsets that lawyers can be conditioned into from the start of their careers. Often, lawyers can get caught up in perfectionism and relentless comparison—and they have no idea that many of their colleagues are stuck in the same mental traps. Tune in to learn practical strategies for dealing with negative self-talk and hyper- self-criticism. (Spoiler alert: connecting with other lawyers is a HUGE help!)
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Apr 23, 2020
Thriving... with Practical Tools and Strategies from LAPs
Michael Kahn interviews our good friend Derek LaCroix, Executive Director of the Lawyers Assistance Program of British Columbia. Tune in to Part 1 to hear Derek’s own story of not-so-much thriving early in his career, and then ultimately learning practical strategies for dealing with the stress and pressures of practicing law. Michael and Derek discuss several “mindset” shifts and practical tools that all lawyers can use to enjoy greater professional and personal fulfillment.
Come back next week for part 2!
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Apr 10, 2020
Thriving... While Grieving?
Pain and loss--in the many different forms they may show up--are an unavoidable aspect of life, and dealing with them can be immensely draining. Listen in as Chris and Michael chat about the impact that grief can have on lawyers in particular, and practical tools for healing and growing through the grieving process.
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Apr 10, 2020
Thriving in the Midst of Turmoil: A Conversation with Chris Osborn
Michael Kahn interviews Chris Osborn about his roundabout road to becoming a small firm lawyer and continuing education presenter. Tune in for a healthy dose of laughter, tears (well, referred to, if not actually shed, during the recording), and encouragement for any lawyer who has encountered challenges in discovering where they best fit within the legal profession.
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Apr 10, 2020
The Thriving Lawyers Podcast: What's it all About?
Welcome to the Thriving Lawyers Podcast. Meet your hosts Chris Osborn and Michael Kahn of Reel Time Creative Learning Experiences. In this episode, Michael and Chris discuss their hopes and purpose for launching this podcast, and what you can expect in future installments. Michael also recounts his journey from practicing lawyer to mental health therapist to his current work helping lawyers improve their personal and professional satisfaction.
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