There's every reason to be alarmed, but does it help? Does screaming from the rooftops about impending climate doom grab people's attention or make them switch channel? Does *not* sounding the alarm give a false impression that everything's kinda OK? It's a debate as old as the hills, but one reignited by everyone's favourite nonagenarian coming down decidedly on the "alarmism's a turn-off" side. Is he right? We discuss. Sustainababble is your friendly environment podcast, out weekly. Theme music by the legendary Dicky Moore – @dickymoo. Sustainababble logo by the splendid Arthur Stovell. MERCH: sustainababble.teemill.com Available on iTunes, Spotify, Acast, Soundcloud & all those types of things, or at sustainababble.fish. Visit us at @thebabblewagon and at Facebook.com/sustainababble. Email us at firstname.lastname@example.org.