309: Is Homeownership A Scam? (Rent vs. Own)
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Should you rent or own your home? 

Host Keith Weinhold reveals the biggest homeowner myths.

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Welcome to Get Rich Education. I’m your host, Keith Weinhold. Is homeownership a sham? Is it a rip-off? 

 

When it comes to the home that you live in yourself, is it better for you to pay rent to a landlord, or own that home yourself? 

 

For your primary residence, what should you do in your specific life situation? You’ll learn today … on Get Rich Education.

 

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Welcome to GRE! From Syracuse, Sicily, Italy to Syracuse, New York and across 188 nations worldwide. I’m Keith Weinhold, this is Get Rich Education.

 

Usually on this show, you learn about how buy-and-hold rental property, when bought strategically - produces wealth. We’ll return to that next week, but today ...

 

… it’s about your primary residence. And, when we talk about, should you own your home or is it better for you to pay rent to a landlord - think about how important this is. 

 

Because whether I’ve had the chance to meet you yet or not, there’s one thing that I definitely know about you, and that is, you are always going to live … somewhere.

 

Your housing expense is one of the biggest financial expenses in your life.   

 

Despite that it’s such a substantial financial decision for you, some people revert to orthodoxy - this FLAWED orthodoxy where they think that owning is always better. That’s not true.

 

I really want you to watch your mind as I tell you this today, because there are very likely a few tripwires installed there … and I am about to hit some of them. So do your best to remain calm … if you must.

 

Though more people are waking up to the fact that renting is sometimes better, I still think that popular culture has long reinforced this misplaced notion that owning is always better.   

 

“Are you a homeowner, Greg? No. I rent. Oh.” 

 

Haha! That’s from the classic comedy movie “Meet The Parents”. Owen Wilson & Ben Stiller - while Robert De Niro - the future father-in-law was party to that chat where he’s thinking that the homeowner is the more apropos suitor for his daughter than the renter is. 

 

Look, if you can OWN a home and your monthly housing payment is $2,500, but you could instead PAY RENT on an equivalent home for $1,500 - now your cash flow has increased by $1,000. That’s money in your pocket today that could be re-invested at a rate of return.

 

Now with your $2,500 housing payment in this example - that’s more than just a mortgage payment remember. 

 

When you own, your HOUSING payment consists of mortgage principal & interest, property tax, property insurance, maintenance, repairs, utilities and more. You’ve got to add all that up to get to $2,500. 

 

What about that TIME it took you on HOW to repair the leaky faucet when you owned the home? Factor that in.

 

Now, the homeowner might reply, but at least part of my $2,500 payment is building equity for me. Yes, it is. A minority of that payment is building equity. You’d rather have equity - you’d rather have principal paydown than lose it to interest. 

 

And you’d rather have equity than nothing.

 

But, as I’ve discussed extensively elsewhere - so I won’t do that again here - home equity is unsafe, illiquid, and it’s rate of return is always zero.

 

You can probably repeat that to me at this point - ha! 

 

Also, what’s more important in your life? Cash flow or equity? Cash flow is what creates financial freedom. As an investor in the pursuit of freedom, in fact, you want to CONVERT your equity to cash flow. 

 

Remember, in this $1,500 rent payment vs. $2,500 housing payment scenario on your primary residence … it’s the renter that has the additional $1,000 cash flow and the homeowner that builds the equity.

 

Let me remind you. If you would like to READ along as you listen to the show today or you know someone that’s hearing impaired, you can read the complete transcript to this episode at GetRichEducation.com/309. 

 

That’s GetRichEducation.com/309 to see all the Show Notes and the entire written transcript for this episode. 

 

Well, some people think that buying & owning their primary residence is: "LIke paying rent. Except you get to keep it." Well,that has caused millions of people to buy houses that they later regret. 

 

I know a young, married couple - Jerome and Jessica - they’ve got two kids. They wanted to move from snowy Anchorage, Alaska to Las Vegas, Nevada. They had lived their entire lives in Anchorage and were tired of the snow and wanted some heat. 

 

You think that they might discover an overcorrection problem, btw? Vegas is in the middle of the Mojave Desert. But anyway ...

 

They had owned their Anchorage home for five years before they put it up for sale. That was the first home that they ever owned - starter home.

 

Had they been renting that home - they could have moved where they wanted to in as little as a month. 

 

But as homeowners, by the time they made all the make-ready repairs to the home, got it listed for sale, had to repeatedly prepare their home for showings - meaning they had to intermittently get their home in pristine condition to make it look good for showings - uprooting their lives every time … they finally sold it in 4-½ months by the time their buying got their financing in order & inspections & appraisal & the deal actually closed.

 

If Jerome and Jessica had been renters instead, they could have been on their way in a month.

 

Plus, over the five years, their home appreciated a little, but not enough to offset the 4% closing costs when they had bought five years earlier, all the maintenance & repairs that they had put into place DURING the five years they lived there, plus then they then had to pay a real estate agent a 5% commission when they sold.

 

They not only lost money by owning, they lost time, they lost mobility. They didn’t have liquidity.

 

For Jerome and Jessica, they got a lesson. “Paying rent is not the same as throwing money away.”

 

Well, I can tell you, Jerome and Jessica moved to Vegas one year ago now. They have been renting from Day One there, they’re still renting, and they have no plans to buy in Vegas anytime soon.

 

“Paying rent is not throwing money away” because you get the BENEFIT as using that space as a home, a place to sleep, prepare food, eat, shower, study, entertain - how in the world is that throwing money away? It isn’t. 

 

You know that I’ve told you on this show before that paying rent is not throwing money away just like the five hour flight that you took from Boston to Phoenix last year wasn’t throwing money away.

 

No one called it throwing money away when you paid $500 to “rent” that airline seat for five hours. Why, because you had the BENEFIT of travelling somewhere.

 

Sheesh, how far are people going to take it with this nonsense that “Paying rent is like throwing money away?”

 

Your gym membership is $50 a month. But you didn’t get to take a set of the 40-pound hex dumbbells home after six months of membership did you?

 

Gosh, how far would you take this nonsense line of reasoning?

 

You like to go mini-golfing? I’ll bet that you paid some portion of your fee to rent the put-put club and a little orange golf ball for two hours.

 

How are you going to think - that you now expect to own equity in a put-put golf club that’s all nicked-up and was used by 80 different people? Sheesh, that’s ridiculous. 

 

You had the benefit of a gym membership because you’re healthier. You had the benefit of mini-golfing because you like some recreation. You didn’t throw money away.

 

What about renting an RV for a week? You didn’t throw money away. You had the benefit of using it.

 

This whole misguided notion that paying rent for a place to live is throwing money away is a … replete farce. 

 

But that also doesn’t mean that renting your primary residence is always better than owning either. 

 

Well, let me give you some numbers here. This will help you debunk that notion that - ad infin-I-tum, homeownership is better.

 

Look, in a place like Manhattan’s Tribeca neighborhood, a small apartment has, just for simplicity, say a rent-to-value ratio of three-tenths of one-percent.

 

That’s a lousy deal if you’re the landlord and an awesome deal if you’re the renter. 

 

So, what that means is that market rent is only $300 per $100K worth of property. That’s that three-tenths of 1%.

 

That ratio might then be $3,000 of rent on a $1M apartment in Tribeca, Manhattan.

 

But look, in a place like Memphis, Tennessee or Little Rock Arkansas, the rent-to-value ratio might be a full 1%. 

 

Now see, if you’re a renter here, you’d have to pay $1,000 for every $100K worth of property. (Not $300 like Manhattan)  

 

Well, in that case, it makes more sense for you to own your home. 

 

BTW, it also then, makes sense for you to own Memphis real estate & rent it to others - because for every $100K of Memphis property you own, you’d RECEIVE $1,000 in rent. You’d RECEIVE a full 1%.

 

Generally, on the coasts, it’s better to pay rent for your primary residence - and in the heartland, it’s better to own that real estate - whether you’re renting it to others OR living there yourself.

 

But there are so many more considerations here than just numbers and geography. So, what else makes sense to your specific situation?

 

And before I go on, please don’t think that I’m “against” the real estate AGENT industry. That’s not true. Gosh, I’ll stand up for a GOOD real estate agent when it makes sense.

 

For example, when it comes to selling your home, you might not want to pay a 5 or 6% sales commission to an agent. Some people would rather sell it themselves and pay 1 or 2%.

 

But what some sellers fail to consider is that an agent might help you get 4% more for it because they know how to reach more buyers, and do it fast, and save you a lot of hassle and uncertainty.

 

So, there’s just one example of how I’ll stick up for agents when it makes sense.  

 

But, getting back to should you own or rent your primary residence, I’m here to help you decide what’s best for you. You’ve ultimately got to decide. 

 

I WILL tell you when it’s better to be a homeowner than rent shortly. But first ...

A recent survey from Freedom Debt Relief shows that homeowners have many regrets when it comes to the purchase of a new home, mostly because they are largely unprepared for the initial cost and the ongoing financial responsibility that comes with homeownership. 

Of the 1,028 people surveyed, 29% said homeownership makes them feel anxious and stressed, while 26% said the cost of owning a home is a burden and they wished they were renting instead.

When it comes to affording house payments, it was Millennials and Gen Z homeowners who said they are struggling the most. Half of these homeowners said property taxes turned out to be higher than they expected, while 52% said their monthly mortgage payments are too high. 

With renting comes an always-available maintenance team and the ability to call the landlord when there is a problem.

Conversely, homeowners have to mow their own lawn, paint their own walls and fix their own leaky faucets. 

And some of these tasks have homeowners shelling out more cash than they planned, with 59% saying maintenance and repairs are more costly and require more effort than expected, and 60% saying they cannot afford needed upgrades. 

That said, it seems the idea of owning a home is still attached to the concept of what it means to succeed in this country, with 59% of homeowners saying they believe that owning a home is still part of the American dream. 

I’d like to add that the survey was conducted “pre-pandemic”.

 

Most people think that owning a home is a financial asset.

 

That's debatable.

 

The Rich Dad school of thought is known for saying that, "A home is a liability, not an asset". 

 

An asset puts money into your pocket every month. A home is a liability because it takes money out of your pocket every month.

 

Of course, in the conventional sense, a home is in your asset column and it’s mortgage is in your liability column.

 

Though owning a home is often a poor financial investment, you still tie up a lot of money in your humble abode. 

 

You really have more than two choices in how you live - it’s actually more than just rent or own. 

 

You have four choices in how you live: you can own your home, pay rent to a landlord, be homeless, or live with your parents – ha!

 

We’re only discussing two here: Rent vs. Own.

 

Fannie Mae associates “Home ownership with the American Dream.” in their marketing slogan. 

 

In America, how many people own their homes vs. rent their homes anyway? About 2/3rds own and ⅓ rent. The homeownership rate is currently about 68%. 

 

Well, I’ve probably got your wheels turning now on “rent vs. own”. 

 

Let’s break things down further. I’ve got 16 factors that I came up with here for you to consider, many of which you’ve never thought about before - on this.

 

Often it’s an exercise in pros vs. cons for you. Often, it’s rationalizing a series of trade-offs for you. 

 

The first of these 16 factors is ...

  • Mobility. Many people move more often than they expect. Renting keeps you nimble. With a new job opportunity or life change like marriage and kids, your mobility is an asset. A homeowner that moves a lot gets eaten up and beaten up with closing costs, make-ready expenses, and sales commissions. Kinda like where I told you about Jerome, Jessica, and their two kids.

 

  • Choice. There are more homes for sale than there are rentals, especially at the higher end. See if you want to rent a high-end place, they’re often really hard-to-find, especially in a more rural area. Renting of high-end homes limits your choice. You might feel like you HAVE to buy to get what you want.

 

  • Equity Buildup. Equity is the difference between what your home is worth and how much you owe on a mortgage. Homeowners build equity; renters don’t. Equity is like a forced savings plan. But equity is an awful investment with zero return. Your return is zero because the presence or absence of home equity has nothing to do with whether or not your home appreciates. (Yet you would rather have equity than nothing.) Houses make terrible “banks” - they’re bad places to store cash.

 

  • Liquidity. Though most homeowners build equity, it’s difficult to access. To tap your home equity, you must prove to a bank that you qualify again, wait months, incur costs, and you still might be denied access to the equity.
  • Opportunity Cost. Many tie up a 20% down payment or more in home equity. As I’ve stated, those equity dollars are low-use, zero return dollars. Instead, your chunk of money can be earning a return for you elsewhere.

 

  • Sunk Cost. This is an overlooked killer for homeowners. I mentioned some of them already. Mortgage loan closing costs, constant home maintenance and repairs, property taxes, utilities, landscaping, snow removal, leaf raking, rototilling, replacing obsolete fixtures and appliances, roofing, and painting costs are never fully recouped when you go to sell it. Renters bear almost none of these sunk costs. Renters aren’t losing time at Lowe’s & Home Depot either.

 

  • Control. Homeowners have a big advantage here. The peace of mind of knowing that a landlord can’t tell you to move is priceless. You have a feeling of belonging, an anchor. As a homeowner, you can knock out a wall, renovate your kitchen, or add a fence. Make it yours. Control is a big homeowner “plus”. 

 

  • Appreciation. Renters don’t experience price appreciation. They commonly even have to endure rent price increases. Homeowners with loans benefit from financial leverage, which can amplify your wealth in an appreciating environment (though you’re lucky if this offsets ongoing opportunity cost and sunk cost). Inflation becomes your friend for homeowners - and when you’ve only got a tiny down payment into a home that you own - leverage AND inflation are both your friend.

Now, a homeowner may also get an unusually outsized equity benefit if they buy in the right place at the right time. For example, if they had bought 10 or more years ago in a place that’s appreciated a lot - for example in Charlotte, Nashville, Austin, or Boise. That could be a homeowner boon there.

But if you buy a home and it’s value doesn’t appreciate - or even goes down - plus each month you paid more than you would have as a renter - plus you’ve lost time doing repairs & maintenance, then you’re REALLY lost out as a homeowner.

  • Tax Advantages. Homeowners often get the mortgage interest deduction. But this is just one small consideration. As our most recurrent guest in GRE history, Rich Dad Advisor Tom Wheelwright says, “Don’t let the tax tail wag the dog.” To say that “I’m buying instead of renting for tax reasons.” That’s a really weak argument.

 

  • Low mortgage rates. Homeowners can tie up long-term fixed interest rate debt at these historically low rates. Economists believe they’ll stay low for a long time into the future. This is a homeowner advantage.

 

  • Price and Rent-To-Value Ratio. If a home costs less than $250,000, own it. If it costs more, pay rent. If the monthly rent is under $700 per $100,000 of home, rent it. If rent costs more, own it. That’s that approximate seven-tenths of one percent rent-to-value ratio - or rent-to-price ratio. This formulaic approach indicates how much “home” you have the benefit of living in per dollar paid. Regional and other factors can skew these numbers. Of course, when we get that general with the numbers, there are going to be more exceptions.

 

  • Community formation. Owning your home provides both you and your neighbors a feeling of “belonging.” Homeowners are more likely to look out for the common good of the neighborhood. That helps everyone. People feel more fulfilled when they’re part of something greater than themselves.

 

  • Travel. This is so simple yet everyone overlooks this. Have you been to New York City? New Hampshire? Iowa? Arizona? Florida? Alaska? Ecuador? If you haven’t even gotten out to see the very world that you live in, be a renter until you’ve found the place that fits your interests. 

Some people find themselves owning a home for a few years, then later realize that they don’t even live in a region that fits their interests.

Maybe you don’t want to move far away because you want to be close to family. That’s legit. Family can be a good reason for NOT making a distant move. It’s about what’s important … to you.

 

  • Personal cash flow. If it costs substantially more to own a place rather than rent that place, then rent it…and vice versa. Homeowners that divert too much of their income into housing payments are what’s known as “House Poor.” This stifles your opportunity to travel, invest, and provide opportunity for your family.

 

  • Natural disasters. Areas subject to frequent earthquakes, hurricanes, and floods clearly tilt to the renter’s advantage. Even if you’re adequately insured as a homeowner, these catastrophes are worse for homeowners. No one thinks about that stuff until it happens.

 

  • Consumer advantages. Owning rather than renting can give you higher credit card limits and more favorable insurance rates.

Those are the 16 factors that I compiled to help you figure out what makes sense for you.

 

A decided stigma still exists with renting. But you don’t live your life for the Joneses, you live it for you.

 

I’ve got more for you on: “Should you rent your home or own your home.?

 

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More on rent vs. own, next. I want to try to help you make the best decision that you possibly can. I’m Keith Weinhold. This is Get Rich Education.

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Welcome back to Get Rich Education. I’m your host Keith Weinhold.

 

Homeowners have a higher net worth than renters. 

 

The average homeowner net worth is $195,000.

The average renter net worth is only $5,000. 

 

That is a substantial gap. The means that homeowner net worth is nearly 40 times what renter net worth is.

 

Does that alone mean that owning is better? No. I think that it does TILT toward owning.

 

But see, to even BE a homeowner and qualify for a mortgage, you would have already needed to have assets and income … in order to cross that threshold.

 

I don’t think these figures are a good reflection of WHERE the homeowners wealth actually came from - was it equity building through leveraged appreciation & principal paydown or how much income they earn from their job?

 

That’s information that I’d like to see. 

 

Of course, in the greater context of Get Rich Education - net worth matters. Not as much as cash flow, but it matters, because net worth can be converted into cash flow.

 

Nonetheless, that net worth stat still tilts to the homeowner favor, just not as much as one thinks.

"People often say that buying a home was the best investment they ever made," that’s what Ne ela Hummel said - the chief planning officer at financial planning firm Abacus Wealth Partners. 

"The problem is that their return as investors is often worse than they think. 

When calculating how much they made on a home, most people do not include the out-of-pocket costs they incurred through things like replacing pipes, repairing roofs, or numerous other unexpected expenses that come up. As a tenant, your costs are fixed, but as a homeowner, you are on the hook for any repair that comes up."

That’s the end of what they said.

Those needed repairs to your home may involve you doing a lot of research online - and watching YouTube videos - to find a solution or simply paying a repairman to remedy the issue. 

Either way, you’re on the hook for investing more time and money into your home when something breaks.

Now, I’ve got another test on renting vs. owning your home.

 

Is a home an “investment”? Do you see your primary residence as an “investment”.

 

Well, what is an “investment” anyway? What is the definition of “investment”.

 

We are an investing show - and we take deep consideration of both the value of your time and your money here, so …

 

The definition of “investment”, per the Oxford dictionary is … “the action or process of investing money for profit or material result.” That’s it.

 

So is your home an investment? I think some people see it that way. 

 

Like I’ve said, if you’re rather lucky and buy the home in the right place and at the right time - you could profit from it. Though that’s more the exception than the norm … probably.

 

What I like to say is that in general, your primary residence is a poor FINANCIAL investment. But it is a good LIFESTYLE investment. 

 

See, in this way, your primary residence is like a vacation.

 

That is because, think about the money you spent on your last vacation. Whether you went to the beach or the ski slopes or French vineyards, it was not a good strict FINANCIAL investment, but it was a good LIFESTYLE investment. 

 

You improved your quality of life. You improved your standard of living.

 

A home is typically a good lifestyle investment and a poor financial investment.

 

Now, look, we’re all somewhat biased based upon our own set of experiences. That goes for me too. I am an 18-year real estate investor. 

 

I grew up in a home that my parents … owned. They even had the mortgage completely paid-off early. 

 

In fact, I think I shared with you before that my parents still live in the same Pennsylvania house that they’ve owned continuously since 1974.

 

But when I grew up in upstate Pennsylvania, all my friends’ families OWNED their homes. No one rented.

 

Later, I’d go on to learn about socioeconomic stratification and how I’d just be less likely to associate and even meet kids from renter households.

 

There was one notable outlier. When I was about 14 years old and the Petroski family moved to town - they were some pretty nice, relatable friends that were into sports & baseball cards - and I learned that they rented. 

 

And that was the first time that I ever remember hearing the word “landlord” in my life … when the Petroskis talked about their landlord, Mr. Hosley.

 

I’ll tell you, my parents owning their home might have help stabilize my childhood. I’m not really sure, because I can’t compare what it’s like to move as a kid, because we never moved.

 

If you’ve got kids, is uprooting them to move damaging to them? 

 

Or does it help them become more adaptable later in life? I truly don’t know the answer. I haven’t read about that at all.

 

But all the kids knew where I lived & could count on me for getting together. 

 

I had an awesome childhood, raised with two married parents, playing wiffle ball in the yard, catching crayfish in the creek, going camping, and collecting Star Wars action figures. All that great kid stuff. And part of that is … well ...

 

Home felt like home. If it’s important for you to build a legacy for your family and have your home incorporated into that - then perhaps only homeownership will give you those … nostalgic feelings. 

 

For me, it was knowing how my brother & I’s Christmas stockings were going to be hung from the mantle in the living room next to our wood-burning stove. 

 

The love from my parents is the most important thing for sure. But knowing that everything was going to be in the same place every year too?

 

You need to understand something. That right there brought me a FEELING, an emotion, that concern for a rent-to-value ratio NEVER could. That’s stuff’s got NOTHING to do with math.

 

If you can’t feel at home, at home, then where you can feel “at home”?

 

Remembering that spot on the living room floor where I was watching the television when the Phillies won the World Series. Yeah, I can still go there and show you that in my parents’ home.

 

See, if I go much further down this track, I’ll soon get teary-eyed here with you. 

 

So, with rent vs. own, is there a hybrid approach? No, there’s not really. There’s something called a lease-purchase. But those agreements are uncommon. 

 

One somewhat hybridized approach is … one that I’ve taken. 

 

I own the home that I live in. I’ve lived in that home for 8 years. But see, what I did is, knowing what we know about equity, is that I decided to own my home but have a low equity position.

 

I made a 5% down payment with a conventional loan. 

 

See, now I’ve got 20:1 leverage, very little skin in the game, and still have control, plus I got a 3.5% interest rate back in 2012.

 

See, instead of putting 20%, with 5% down, now I have that difference of 15% of the value of the home … out working for me as equity levers in other income properties in other states.

 

And no, I pay ZERO monthly PMI despite putting 5% down with a conventional loan. I’ve given you detail on how I pulled that off on previous shows, and you can too. 

 

The short story is, make a strong offer on your buy price and put it into the contract that your seller pay upfront PMI for you.

 

Now, there are some other distinct things happening in my geography where - if someone wanted to come buy my primary residence from me, but yet I could keep living here as their renter …

 

… and it was written into the contract that they couldn’t make me move, and I know I would pay them a lower rent amount than I’m currently paying in my mortgage & all those other homeowner expenses, I WOULD consider doing that.

 

Those situations are hard to find.

 

Yep, I would convert my mortgage payments to rent payments if I could get that arrangement. 

 

And why do this? Because the lower rent payment would increase my personal monthly cash flow, plus it would free up any dead equity that I have in the home.

 

Part of the rationale there is that my home market has few prospects for substantial appreciation in the next few years.

 

Well, in rent vs. own, what’s the bottom line with what makes the most sense for you financially? (Just … talking financial only here)

 

Be a renter in a high-end home and then buy low-cost income properties in investor-advantaged markets in the Midwest and South - that you rent out to others.

 

See, if you’re a renter in a high-end home, now you’ve got zero dead equity tied up in your home - and instead, it’s leveraging property in sensible markets.

 

In fact, I know a few other people - savvy people - that understand rent-to-price ratios and do exactly that. 

 

They’re FAIRLY wealthy people that are renters by choice - and own lots of rental property in low-priced markets.

 

But there’s no one definitive OVERALL factor in your Rent vs. Own decision because this is where finances and feelings intersect.

 

So here’s hoping that you’re finding a few considerations that you’ve never thought about before!

 

To be clear here and to summarize overall ...

 

  • Is homeownership a sham? Is it a rip-off? No.

 

  • Is homeownership overrated? Yes, it still is.

 

  • Many people that are renting should own. These people seem to know that.

 

  • Conversely, many that are owning would actually be better off renting. Few seem to know that and they’re even willing to take up an argument with you. 

They’ve heard the same “Paying rent is like throwing money away.” thing for so long, that they’d rather argue than really think it through.

 

Well, the reason that I did this show today - though it’ll be just as relevant if you’re listening 5 to 10 years from now, is pandemic-related. 

 

It’s because the COVID-19 pandemic is appearing to increase the migration rate as people look for less dense housing. 

 

Whether you’re migrating or not, now you better know whether renting or owning your home makes the most sense for you.

 

Next week here on the show, we’ll discuss what we usually do - INCOME property - property that you don’t live in, but instead, rent to others - and just exactly why the investment makes more ordinary people wealthy than anything else. 

 

If there’s one thing that I know about you, it’s that you are always going to live somewhere. 

 

And you know what else, so is everyone that you know. 

 

Every person that you know - may or may not own rental property - but everyone that you know is always going to live somewhere too. 

 

Do you think that this show would benefit them? 

 

This episode in particular might save your family and friends SO much time and money.

 

I love it when you share the show with others. So I’d be grateful if you took a screenshot of this episode and shared it on your Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, or even through an email or text with those that you care about. 

 

I always endeavor to make things clear to understand here on the show. I’m Keith Weinhold.

 

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Master Passive Income Real Estate Investing in Rental Property
Master Passive Income Real Estate Investing in Rental Property
Dustin Heiner
Housing Market Crash Update | Federal Reserve Telling Us the Crash Is Coming
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The Remote Real Estate Investor
The Remote Real Estate Investor
Roofstock
Our Top Tips for Finding & Vetting A Good Property Manager
Tom, Michael and Emil continue our series on how to source a powerful real estate team. In this episode, we discuss the property manager. --- Transcript Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of The Remote Real Estate Investor. My name is Emil Shour, and I'm joined by my co-host, Tom: Tom Schneider Michael: And Michael album. Emil: And in today's episode, we're going to be continuing our series on finding and vetting different people on your real estate investing team. So last couple episodes, we've covered insurance carrier and lender and then in today's episode, we're going to cover the property manager. So let's get to it. Theme Song Emil: Alright guys, in the last episode, we gave a quick shout out before we got into the episode and want to do that again. Give people shout outs for leaving us reviews. So this last one came from IanC11. Love the pod great for someone who is new to real estate investing combos and personal experiences are super insightful, and the info is easily digestible. Thanks, Ian. Appreciate it. Man. Tom: We are almost at our 100th review on Apple podcasts, which is pretty awesome. And I think for the person who hits, who writes the 100th review, what do you think Emil? Some sort of like, Emil: What if now nobody wants to write a review? Because they're waiting to get to 100? Michael: They're waiting? Tom: Yeah, I think we sent him a shirt, a roof stock Academy shirt and books done. approved, budget approved. Emil: How about the next 10 reviews? So anyone from 94 to 104? will pick one person and send them that cool pack you mentioned? Tom: Well, maybe it's at 98, 95. There's a term for this type of promotion. It's we could be at 100. I don't know we could be right below good reason to write the promotion. We'll do it for two people. Emil: Two people. There you go. Alright, next 10 reviews, we're going to randomly choose two people and send you some cool stuff. Okay, so we're talking about the property manager. This episode, we're going to follow the same format that we have been, which is a three part question series. So the first part is, when in the process, should we be finding our property manager? When in our real estate acquisition process? How do you source a property manager? And what are some good vetting questions to ask them to make sure you're finding the right property management partner? So let's kick it off with when in the process? Should a new real estate investor start looking for a property manager? What do you guys think? When have you guys started looking for your pm in the process, Tom: I would say you can't do it early enough. Because it you know, if you take one thing from this episode, and I've probably repeated this a couple of times, is you can bring, especially as a remote investor, leverage that property manager as local boots on the ground. And you can begin the interview process by adding them as a data point within your acquisitions process. So let's say I'm looking to buy a house in Columbus, Ohio, or Atlanta or Indianapolis, you know, in talking to property managers, I can get their feedback on properties that I'm looking at and neighborhoods, it's a really, a secret sauce to a remote investor is bringing in that local property manager early and often. So I would say as early as possible, what you don't want to happen is in a transaction, you know, you've found a great property you like it fits, checks off all the boxes you're looking for. And then like last second scrambling to find a property manager, you're not going to make as good of a decision. And plus, you're wasting that opportunity to use that property manager as part of your acquisitions team. So early and early. Yes, early. Michael: I agree with you, Tom 150%. I think you, you nailed it. And they can be your eyes and ears, they can be adult, they should be involved in the due diligence process, they can give you insights into markets and sub markets and streets where you want to avoid and things where you want to be looking out for. I think they a good property manager is going to really have their finger on the pulse of a particular market. And so that only goes to stress the importance of finding not only just a property manager, but a good one. And Tom, to your point of scrambling last minute to find a PM, I've been there done that I did that twice. Actually, in the same market, I was really excited about the market, I was really excited about the deals, I didn't have a pm in place. But I had a really great agent. And I've talked about this in the past. And so I purchased the deal. And then I threw it in interviewed a bunch of different property managers, and there were just no good options. So I had to pick the least bad of all the options. And like, just to put it bluntly, it sucked. Like it was so bad. I ended up firing the property manager A few months later. And it was a really awful experience. And after I closed that second deal, I was thinking about selling both properties and just getting out of the market because it was such a nightmare dealing with the pm in that market, because there were just no good alternatives. And the whole time before I fired him I was looking for alternatives and I just couldn't I just not none existed. And so I can get into it a little bit later. But I then convinced my agent to start a property management business and that worked out pretty well. But so in lieu of find if starting your own property management business are forcing someone to do it on your behalf. Definitely try to find a good pm early. Well, before you purchase. Again, if I hadn't been able to do that I would not still be in those markets today. I think your investment lives and dies by your pm. Tom: Yeah, I think we had an earlier episode where we talked about the decision of using professional property management or self managing, yes. This is the the, this episode, the guise of it, I think I'm using that word right, is you are buying remotely and you are using professional property management is the assumptions that we're making. In this episode, Emil: I would say that once you've decided on your market, once you're saying I'm gonna go invest in Dallas or Atlanta or wherever, I think your next step should honestly be to go talk to property managers, they know so much about the area. Yeah, you can spend tons of time researching online, looking on forums, whatever, but like property manager lives and breathes that they're managing, often hundreds of properties in that market, they can tell you the areas that they like managing where they don't like managing, where they're seeing a lot of growth, rent growth, whatever it is, they can tell you the types of properties that they are able to lease up very easily, versus ones that are more difficult. They're just a knowledge of wealth that I think you should tap as early in the process, like you guys mentioned. So honestly, it's like, once you've chosen a market, I would go start talking to two property managers, honestly. Michael: So Emil, I actually work with a student in the academy who takes almost the exact opposite approach. He's involved in a particular market, loves, loves, loves his property management company, and is now investigating other markets, only those in which that same property manager operates. So he's actually following on his property management coattails to other markets, other states, because he likes them so much, because he believes in them so much. So you can almost use your property manager as a roadmap so to speak, if they're operating in other markets as to other markets to potentially investigate. Now, of course, you can still go do your market due diligence and validate it for yourself. But knowing that that piece of the puzzle is already solved for you, makes it kind of nice. Emil: Yeah, this person probably chose a market and then found the property manager, and now is using them to explore other market…
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BiggerPockets Podcast : Real Estate Investing and Wealth Building to Help You Get Bigger Pockets
BiggerPockets Podcast : Real Estate Investing and Wealth Building to Help You Get Bigger Pockets
BiggerPockets.com : Joshua Dorkin and Brandon Turner
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Today's a special episode featuring the author of a book we can't get enough of: Bluefishing: The Art of Making Things Happen by the man, the myth, the legend - Steve Sims. Who is Steve, anyway? Well, he's a former bricklayer and bouncer-turned-entrepreneur who uses a unique mindset and blend of skills to creates once-in-a-lifetime experiences for billionaire clients. Experiences like: getting married by the Pope in the Vatican, having a private dinner at the feet of Michaelangelo's David statue, or going on an underwater tour of the Titanic shipwreck. And here's the thing: as you'll hear in this episode, Steve's not a silver-spoon, high society type. He's just a regular guy who chooses to think and act differently, consistently. And after this episode, you'll be able to "Bluefish" your way into more relationships, more private money, and ultimately more deals! We talk about "leading with value" when approaching mentors... blah blah blah. Today, you'll hear a refreshing new twist on that concept, and learn actual tactics you can put into practice to make more connections and level up your life today. One final note: Steve uses some colorful language in this episode; please take note of the "Explicit" label, and listen to this one when the kiddos aren't in the backseat :)
The Brian Buffini Show
The Brian Buffini Show
Brian Buffini
Making Your Quantum Leap, Part 2 #247
“You’re more ready for a quantum leap than you know.” – Brian Buffini If you want to make extraordinary breakthroughs and achieve higher performance levels, you must take action. In this episode, the second part of a session recorded live at MasterMind Summit, Brian takes a deep dive into how to make a quantum leap in your life. He explains why you should trust your gut, while also knowing the difference between your instincts and a whim; how your past successes can become your prison; and why you already have everything you need to make a quantum leap if you let others help you. YOU WILL LEARN: * What you have now that you didn’t have before. * What a quantum leap is, and what it isn’t. * What you need to do before you take the leap. MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Buffini & Company MasterMind Summit “Chicken Soup for the Soul,” by Jack Canfield and Mark Victor Hansen “The Alchemist,” by Paulo Coelho The John Brockington Foundation INSPIRATIONAL QUOTES FROM THIS EPISODE: “I would rather trust my gut and suffer failure than not trust my gut and have some moderate success.” – Brian Buffini “Every time you take a risk or move out of your comfort zone, you have a great opportunity to learn more about yourself and your capacity.” – Jack Canfield “Before anything else, preparation is the key to success.” – Alexander Graham Bell “Unsuccessful people make decisions based on their current situation. Successful people make their decisions based on where they want to be.” – Anonymous “Be brave. Take risks. Nothing can substitute experience.” – Paulo Coelho https://www.TheBrianBuffiniShow.com http://www.brianbuffini.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brian_buffini Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brianbuffini Twitter: https://twitter.com/brianbuffini Theme Music: “The Cliffs of Moher” by Brogue Wave
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Be Wealthy & Smart
Be Wealthy & Smart
Linda P. Jones
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Learn why the DOJ brought a lawsuit against Google and which big tech companies are next. The article is here. Are you investing well for financial freedom...or not? As we live our lives, we have seen enormous money be made in real estate, technology stocks, etc. and have seen wild swings in markets before. They can feel scary at the time, but in hindsight are often tremendous opportunities for future financial success. If you only knew where to invest for the long-term, what a difference it would make, because the difference between investing $100k and earning 2% or 10% on your money over 30 years, is the difference between it growing to $181,136 or $1,744,940, an increase of over $1.5 million dollars. Your compounding rate, and how well you invest, matters! INTERESTED IN THE BE WEALTHY & SMART VIP EXPERIENCE? -Asset allocation model with ticker symbols and % to invest -Monthly investing webinars with Linda -Private Facebook group with daily insights -Weekly stock market commentary email -Lifetime access -US and foreign investors, no minimum $ amount required For a limited time, enjoy a 50% savings. More information is here or have complimentary consultation with Linda to answer your questions click here: https://2909395.survey.fm/application-for-vip-experience PLEASE REVIEW THE SHOW ON ITUNES If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. I love hearing from you! I so appreciate it! SUBSCRIBE TO BE WEALTHY & SMART Click Here to Subscribe Via iTunes Click Here to Subscribe Via Stitcher on an Android Device Click Here to Subscribe Via RSS Feed WEALTH HEIRESS TV Please subscribe to Wealth Heiress TV YouTube channel (it’s not just for women, it’s for men too!), here. PLEASE LEAVE A BOOK REVIEW Leave a book review on Amazon here. Get my book, “You’re Already a Wealth Heiress, Now Think and Act Like One: 6 Practical Steps to Make It a Reality Now!” Men love it too! After all, you are Wealth Heirs. :) Available for purchase on Amazon. International buyers (if you live outside of the US) get my book here. WANT MORE FROM LINDA? Check out her programs. Join her on Instagram. WEALTH LIBRARY OF PODCASTS Listen to the full wealth library of podcasts from the beginning. Use the search bar in the upper right corner of the page to search topics. TODAY'S SPONSOR I want to take a few seconds to tell you about how I “read” more books and stay ahead of the curve. It’s by not reading books, but instead listening to them – like you are right now! With Audible, there are over 150,000 titles to choose from for your iPhone, Android, Kindle or mp3 player and…your first audiobook is FREE! I suggest you get the audio book of Think and Grow Rich, or you can check out my website Resources page where I list all of my favorite financial books and you see exactly what books I have read and recommend you read. Then get started with Audible by visiting https://lindapjones.com/FreeBook and order your first audio book free! Get Think and Grow Rich or another book from my recommend list, and be sure to get started checking off the books you want to read with your free book from Audible! Be Wealthy & Smart,™ is a personal finance show with self-made millionaire Linda P. Jones, America’s Wealth Mentor.™ Learn simple steps that make a big difference to your financial freedom. (Some links are affiliate links. There is no additional cost to you.)
12 min
Invest Like a Boss
Invest Like a Boss
Sam Marks & Johnny FD
158: Peter Mallouk Talks The Path with Tony Robbins
Peter Mallouk is the President of Creative Planning, named the #1 Independent Financial Advisory Firm in America by Barron’s (2017). Barron’s magazine named Peter the #1 Independent Financial Advisor in America three straight years (2013, 2014, and 2015). CNBC named Creative Planning the #1 Independent Wealth Management Firm in the United States on the only rankings the network ever released (2014–2015). Peter is featured on Worth magazine’s 2017 and 2018 Power 100 rankings, a list featuring the 100 most powerful men and women in global finance. In 2017, Peter was a recipient of the Ernst & Young Central Midwest Entrepreneur of the Year Award. Creative Planning provides comprehensive wealth management services to high-net-worth clients, including investment management, financial planning, charitable planning, retirement plan consulting, tax planning, and estate planning services. Creative Planning currently manages nearly $50 billion for clients in all fifty states. Reach Out to Peter Mallouk * Creative Planning * Twitter * Facebook Listen to ILAB 158 on iTunes here or subscribe on your favorite podcast app. Where we are: * Johnny FD – Sri Lanka / IG @johnnyfdk * Sam Marks – South Carolina / IG @imsammarks * Derek Spartz – Los Angeles / IG @derekradio Sponsor: * Indeed * Support Invest Like a Boss: Join our Patreon Discussed: The Path: Accelerating Your Journey to Financial Freedom is Peter Mallouk & Tony Robbins' Regardless of your stage of life and your current financial picture, the quest for financial freedom can indeed be conquered. The journey will demand the right tools and strategies along with the mindset of money mastery. With decades of collective wisdom and hands-on experience, your guides for this expedition are Peter Mallouk, the only man in history to be ranked the #1 Financial Advisor in the U.S. for three consecutive years by Barron’s (2013, 2014, 2015), and Tony Robbins, the world-renowned life and business strategist. Mallouk and Robbins take the seemingly daunting goal of financial freedom and simplify it into a step-by-step process that anyone can achieve. Like these investments? Try them with these special ILAB links: * ArtofFX – Start with just a $10,000 account (reduced from $25,000) * Fundrise – Start with only $1,000 into their REIT funds (non-accredited investors OK) * Betterment – Get up to 1 year managed free * Wealthfront – Get your first $15,000 managed free * PeerStreet – Get a 1% yield bump on your first loan *Johnny and Sam use all of the above services personally. Time Stamps: * 8:22 – Why the New Book? * 9:26 – Why was it necessary to include “the 6 human needs” in the book? * 14:06 – Why do people have financial success but still are not happy? * 15:57 – What still drives you to grow your business? * 17:14 – How did you get started and how did you meet Toni? * 24:47 – What are your thoughts on the All Seasons portfolio? * 29:03 – What are your thoughts going forward with the US Stock market? * 31:08 – How are you personally invested? * 32:30 – What are the advantages of using your company as opposed to going directly? * 34:42 – How do you feel about crypto currency? * 36:52 – What does financial freedom look like? * 38:56 – Johnny and Derek Recap If you enjoyed this episode, do us a favor and share it! Also if you haven’t already, please take a minute to leave us a 5-star review on iTunes and claim your bonus here! Copyright 2020. All rights reserved. Read our disclaimer here.
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