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Talking Under Water is the preeminent podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Water & Wastes Digest (WWD), Water Quality Products (WQP) and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WQP and SWS.
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Apr 22, 2022
Episode 51: Diving into Regulations
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Katie Johns and Bob Crossen talk about a new documentary, “FLINT,” that will be released on Friday, April 29. Additionally, they discuss an EPA memo regarding accelerating nutrient pollution reductions.
Finally, the interview this month is with Maria Lehman, president-elect of the American Society of Civil Engineers and director of US Infrastructure for GHD. Johns talked with Maria about regulations, including the Infrastructure and Investment Jobs Act, PFAS, lead service line replacement and more.
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Mar 18, 2022
Episode 50: Women in Water
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen — in conjunction with Women’s History Month and International Women’s Day — share two interviews with stellar women in water on their career journeys and advice to the next generation. Johns spoke with Jennifer Kelly Lachmayr, who recently concluded her service as past president of NEWEA and is an active vice president at Arcadis. Del Ciello spoke with Melissa Jones, group president for commercial water solutions for Pentair.
Plus, the hosts share a little about what this episode means to them as co-hosts and where you can find even more women in water Q&As in celebration throughout the month. This marks our 50th numbered episode of Talking Under Water.
Finally, the hosts bid farewell to co-host Lauren Del Ciello as she leaves the podcast and starts a new adventure.
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Feb 18, 2022
Episode 49: Diversity, Equity & Inclusion for the Water Sector
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen discuss ASDWA releasing a state implementation framework for lead service line inventories, as well as upcoming water-focused social media events to participate in.
Finally, the interview this month is with Donnell Duncan, associate vice president for Arcadis, and Megan Yoo-Schneider, client-account leadership for Accenture. Together, they co-chair Water Environment Federation’s (WEF) Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Committee. Johns spoke with Duncan and Yoo-Schneider about the WEF committee’s initiatives and goals, the importance of DE&I to the industry and how age plays into DE&I.
Next month marks our 50th numbered episode of Talking Under Water. In honor of the big 5-0, we want to hear from you. Send us your favorite water jokes for consideration for the March episode cold open intro (also in honor of World Water Day!) and get in on the action with us. Email us at talkingunderwater@sgcmail.com.
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Jan 21, 2022
Episode 48: One Water Innovations & Tactics
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen discuss national news regarding the U.S. EPA finalization of the Fifth Unregulated Contaminant Monitoring Rule (UCMR 5) and its implications for water systems. The hosts also touch on the launch of a new EPA video challenge — “Companies Crushing Pollution” — and share how to get involved.
Finally, the interview this month is withNate Allen, executive director for WaterStart. Crossen spoke with Allen about innovation and how tactical decisions can be part of a grander One Water Strategy.
Cold Open | 0:00
Host Introductions | 1:06
Special Announcement: One Water Media | 2:04
EPA finalizes the UCMR 5 | 4:15
Companies Crushing Pollution video challenge | 7:04
Interview with Nate Allen begins | 9:31
What is WaterStart? | 9:43
Giving smaller solutions providers exposure | 11:16
Technology trends and innovations in water and wastewater | 13:00
Relieving the regulatory burden placed on utilities | 15:55
How small tasks can become big problems | 18:22
WaterStart’s role in the One Water conversation | 21:19
Tactical decisions for One Water strategies | 24:02
Trends for 2022 and WaterStart’s next steps | 24:59
Why having a working example is vital to innovation adoption | 28:09
Interview with Nate Allen ends | 30:24
Housekeeping | 30:57
Outro | 33:23
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Dec 16, 2021
Episode 47: State of the Industry 2021
Wrapping up 2021, Talking Under Water hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Bob Crossen and Katie Johns present the third annual special State of the Industry episode. The hosts touch briefly on the recent passage of the Infrastructure Investment & Jobs Act; however, the bulk of the conversation focuses on the State of the Industry.
Del Ciello, Crossen and Johns each share key snippets and trends from their individual brands/markets (Water Quality Products, Water & Wastes Digest, Storm Water Solutions) regarding what they have been seeing through State of the Industry surveys and subsequent reports, which dive deep into the the wastewater, storm water and water quality sectors respectively. Finally, the hosts dig into a discussion on cross-sector overlap. In January, the podcast will be back with the regular format of news discussion plus a guest interview.
Timestamps:
Cold Open: 0:00
Host introduction: 0:46
Episode overview: 1:03
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law overview: 2:12
Municipal water and wastewater breakdown and headwinds: 3:28
Storm water breakdown: 4:41
Residential and commercial water breakdown: 5:33
State of the Industry overview
State of the Industry for Water Quality Products: 7:19
State of the Industry for Water & Wastes Digest: 9:53
State of the Industry for Storm Water Solutions: 14:17
Supply chain disruption: 17:54
Staffing, recruiting and retention: 23:17
Funding, regulation, and permitting: 29:04
Inflation: 33:34
Housekeeping: 37:28
Outro: 39:05
End: 39:51
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Nov 19, 2021
Episode 46: Women in Water 2021
In this episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen highlight conversations with four women in water on their career journeys, women in leadership, diversity in the workplace, the role of mentorship and more. Plus, the podcast guests share advice for young professionals entering the water industry.
For this episode, Johns interviewed Mariyana Spyropoulos, a member of the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District of Chicago’s Board of Commissioners. Del Ciello spoke with Sivan Zamir, senior director of Xylem’s Innovation Labs. Crossen spoke with Felicia James, associate vice president and asset management lead for Carollo Engineers and Haley Goddard, project engineer and young professionals facilitator for Carollo Engineers.
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Oct 22, 2021
Episode 45: The Future of One Water — Climate, Equity & Recovering Stronger
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen discuss the National Association of Water Companies (NAWC) new five principles for advancing water equity and new regional roundtables on WOTUS announced by the U.S. EPA and U.S. Department of Army.
Finally, the interview this month is with Renée Willette, vice president of programs and strategy for the US Water Alliance. Ahead of Imagine a Day Without Water, recognized annually on October 21, Crossen spoke with Willette about what is new in the One Water sphere for the US Water Alliance; the impact of extreme weather on how the industry and the public talk about water; and how listeners can engage with Imagine a Day Without Water.
Timestamps:
Cold Open: 0:00
Host Introduction: 0:54
Episode Summary: 1:08
NAWC adopts five water equity principles: 1:49
EPA & Army announce WOTUS round tables: 4:35
Introducing Renée Willette: 6:22
What’s new in One Water and were are we heading?: 6:59
How has the perception of water changed during the pandemic?: 9:40
How climate and extreme weather events impact The Value of Water campaign: 13:34
How climate stress and extreme weather become water discussion points: 18:40
Getting involved in Imagine A Day Without Water: 21:25
What’s next for US Water Alliance?: 23:11
Housekeeping: 26:48
End: 29:06
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Sep 17, 2021
Episode 44: How is PFAS a One Water Issue?
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen touch on a water crisis in Lebanon related to high fuel prices. The hosts also dig into the impacts of Hurricane Ida on all aspects of water, from drinking water to wastewater and storm water
Finally, the interview this month is with Scott Wilson, president and CEO of Regenesis. Del Ciello spoke with Wilson about PFAS, the impact on groundwater, a rise in consumer awareness and how PFAS is a One Water issue.
Timestamps:
Cold Open: 0:00
Host Intro: 0:53
Lebanon fuel crisis is causing a drinking water crisis: 1:38
Host discussion on Lebanon drinking water crisis: 2:39
Hurricane Ida wreaks havoc on eastern U.S.: 5:19
Host discussion on Hurricane Ida: 7:55
Introducing Scott Wilson interview: 11:11
What is/are PFAS?: 11:52
Where can PFAS be found?: 15:13
Putting PFAS’ creation in context: 17:15
The lack of analytical tools at the time of PFAS’ creation: 18:16
How does PFAS impact groundwater professionals compared to surface water?: 19:10
How is PFAS contamination a One Water issue?: 28:25
Interview ends: 31:44
Housekeeping: 32:07
End: 34:26
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Aug 20, 2021
Episode 43: Small Systems Trends
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen touch on recent news from the US Water Alliance — another One Water advocate like this podcast — announcing a new CEO. The hosts also cover progress on the U.S. Investment and Jobs Act, following months of bipartisan negotiations between the Biden Administration and a bipartisan group of Senators. Then they dig into a discussion on the relationship between recent increasing extreme weather events and water.
Finally, the interview this month is with Ronit Erlitzki, director of business development and innovation for AdEdge Water Technologies, and RJ Cavagnaro, director of marketing for AdEdge Water Technologies. Crossen spoke with Ronit and RJ about small systems trends in requested treatment tech, packaged systems and contaminants of most concern.
Timestamps:
Cold open: (0:00)
Host intro: (1:32)
US Water Alliance announces new CEO Mami Hara: (2:37)
US Senate passes $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill: (3:16)
Hurricane and wildfire update: (4:49)
Interview with Ronit Erlitzki and RJ Cavagnaro begins: (7:19)
Trends in small systems bid specifications: (8:05)
The growing trend toward packaged systems: (12:23)
Drivers behind the trends in small systems treatment: (14:04)
The evolution of treatment technology for small systems: (19:22)
Rain water, water harvesting and water runoff for small systems: (28:02)
The sincerity of commercial and corporate water reuse: (30:44)
Interview ends: (32:58)
Housekeeping: (33:32)
End: (35:28)
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Jul 16, 2021
Episode 42: Sustainable Hotel Water Management
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen touch on federal water news, including potential WOTUS updates, the confirmation of Radhika Fox to the U.S. EPA Office of Water and movement on federal infrastructure funding.
Finally, the interview this month is with Brad Clements, senior corporate account manager, Lodging segment for Nalco Water. Del Ciello spoke with Clements about sustainable hotel water management and how One Water principles can play a role.
Timestamps:
Cold Open: (0:00)
Host Introduction: (0:43)
Waters of the United States: (1:38)
Senate Confirms Radhika Fox to lead EPA Office of Water: (3:45)
INVEST in America Act: (5:44)
President Biden and Senators reach $1.2T infrastructure package compromise: (7:01)
Introducing Brad Clements interview: (8:52)
Effect of drought and barriers to efficient hotel water management: (10:18)
Costs associated with hotel water: (14:24)
How water quality impacts cooling tower management: (18:41)
Considerations when choosing where to target water savings initiatives: (22:48)
Recognizing that no two systems are alike: (25:40)
Customer awareness surrounding sustainable hotel water management (26:50)
How one water plays into sustainable hotel water management: (29:46)
Interview ends: (32:50)
Housekeeping: (32:59)
End (35:40)
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Jun 18, 2021
Episode 41: Water Scarcity, Economy & Equity
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen provide a brief update on the progress of the Lead and Copper Rule Revision, which is now undergoing community roundtables to gather feedback. The hosts also explore current water scarcity issues in the U.S., including Lake Mead’s declining water levels and the impact of water scarcity on the entire water cycle ranging from surface water to groundwater.
Finally, the interview this month is with Scott Slater, CEO of Cadiz Inc. about water scarcity and how it affects the economy, relates to water equity and more.
Timestamps:
Cold Open - Gameshows: (0:00)
Host Intro: (0:44)
Lead & Copper Rule update: (1:33)
Drought in the Western U.S.: (5:28)
The connection between agriculture water use and water wells: (9:06)
Introducing Scott Slater, CEO of Cadiz Inc.: (13:07)
Biggest challenges regarding water scarcity in the Western U.S.: (13:59)
Factors contributing to water scarcity: (19:17)
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May 20, 2021
Talking Under Water Episode 40: Funding, Travel & New Technologies
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen discuss the recent Senate passage of the Drinking Water & Wastewater Infrastructure Act of 2021, and touch on a new U.S. EPA web-based app to help communities identify potential sources of pollution to recreational waters. They also unpack recent survey results conducted by Water Quality Products, Storm Water Solutions and Water & Wastes Digest on water industry attitudes towards live event attendance.
Finally, the interview this month is with Rajan Ray, digital solutions leader for CDM Smith, on emerging technologies that are advancing the engineering and design phases of projects in the water and wastewater industry.
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Apr 16, 2021
Episode 39: Seizing Water's Moment
In this episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen discuss how the recently announced American Jobs Plan may impact the water sector before diving into two industry expert interviews regarding the current legislative landscape for water infrastructure priorities.
The interviews this month are with Nathan Ohle, CEO for the Rural Community Assistance Partnership (RCAP) and Shellie Chard, water quality division director for the Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality. Ohle and Chard testified before the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works March 17, highlighting the need for investment in water and infrastructure. Both represent different facets of the water industry yet stress the need for collaboration.
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Mar 19, 2021
Episode 38: When it Rains, it Pours
n this episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen discuss the latest coronavirus relief package — the American Rescue Plan — and its impact on the water industry. We’ll also dig into the results of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) 2021 Infrastructure Report Card as pertains to water infrastructure.
Finally, the interview this month is with Rich “Raz” Razgaitis, co-founder and CEO for FloWater. Johns spoke with Razgaitis about microplastics and how the issue impacts all aspects of the water industry from consumer to municipality workers.
Show Notes:
Congress adopts $1.9 trillion stimulus, securing first major win for Biden
EPA Action Notices Extend Lead & Copper Rule Revision Effective Date
US House Passes Stimulus Bill, Includes Water Assistance
ASCE Infrastructure Report Card: Drinking Water, Wastewater & Storm Water Grades
Storm Water Earns ‘D’ on ASCE Report Card for America’s Infrastru…
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Feb 19, 2021
Episode 37: Balance And Belonging
In this episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen explore how the Biden administration may impact the water sector and provide updates on the Lead & Copper Rule revisions discussed in last month’s episode. The hosts also briefly share water industry efforts and resources pushing diversity and inclusion.
Finally, the interview this month is with Andrea Hall, senior director of diversity and inclusion for Brown & Caldwell. Crossen spoke with Hall about diversity and inclusion, creating safe spaces to have challenging conversations, and the importance of confronting issues about race, diversity and inclusion.
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Jan 15, 2021
Episode 36: Trends in Sustainable Investment
In this episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen discuss recent updates to the Lead and Copper Rule for the first time in 30 years and potential impacts on the water industry at large. The conversation also unpacks the recent Chesapeake Bay Foundation’s assessment of the State of the Bay, which declined slightly from 2018.
Finally, our interview this month is with Dorothée Chabredier, principal for Amane Advisors. Del Ciello spoke with Chabredier about trends in water investment, including an increased interest in sustainable investing. Chabredier explains the categories in sustainable investing, which have the greatest growth and how water businesses can optimize their business models to benefit from sustainable investing. She also shared her water wish list for 2021 and beyond.
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Dec 18, 2020
Episode 35: 2020 State of the Industry
Wrapping up 2020, Talking Under Water hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Bob Crossen and Katie Johns present the second annual special State of the Industry episode. The episode features snippets from conversations with multiple industry leaders reflecting on the state of the industry from their perspective segments of the water industry, including the wastewater sector, residential/commercial drinking water treatment sector, and storm water and erosion control sectors. Del Ciello, Crossen and Johns weave the interview clips with discussion delving into the issues explored, including market impact of COVID-19, smart technology, consumer focus on water access/quality, regulatory issues down the pipeline and more.
A special thanks to all of this month's podcast guests for sharing their industry insights, including Derek Berg, president of the Stormwater Equipment Manufacturers Association; Adam Dibble, president of the International Erosion Control Association; Colin Sabol, senior vice president…
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Nov 19, 2020
Episode 34: Women in Water
In this episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen highlight conversations with two women in water on their career journeys, women in leadership, diversity in the workplace, the role of mentorship and more. Plus, the podcast guests share advice for young professionals entering the water industry.
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Oct 30, 2020
Value of Water Series: Water Access Perspective with COPE
In this special episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Bob Crossen, Lauren Del Ciello and Katie Johns share the final interview in the four-part Value of Water Series.
The series aims to share diverse voices and perspectives on solving water access, equity and affordability issues starting with the role of one water before digging into the utility perspective, a community group perspective and finally a perspective from the ground floor on water access. In this episode, Lauren interviews Carmen George, research & MEQ manager for the Community Outreach & Patient Empowerment (COPE) program. The program is a partnership with the Navajo Nation Community Health Representative Outreach Program to improve the lives of those living with chronic diseases in Navajo Nation. The program has also been significantly involved in water access issues in the community, especially in light of current circumstances. Lauren and Carmen discuss COPE’s mission and barriers to clean d…
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Oct 23, 2020
Value of Water Series: Community Perspective with Milwaukee Water Commons
In this special episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Bob Crossen, Lauren Del Ciello and Katie Johns share the third interview in the four-part Value of Water Series.
The series aims to share diverse voices and perspectives on solving water access, equity and affordability issues starting with the role of one water before digging into the utility perspective, a community group perspective and finally a perspective from the ground floor on water access. In this episode, Katie interviews Kirsten Shead and Brenda Coley, co-executive directors of the Milwaukee Water Commons.They talk about the efforts of the Milwaukee Water Commons and water equity in the city of Milwaukee and beyond.
The series will conclude next week, Oct. 30, with an interview between Lauren and Carmen George, research & MEQ manager for the Community Outreach & Patient Empowerment (COPE) program discussing water access.
The TUW hosts are committed to elevating conversations surrounding issues…
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Oct 16, 2020
Value of Water Series: Utility Perspective with Buffalo Sewer Authority
In this special episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Bob Crossen, Lauren Del Ciello and Katie Johns share the second interview in the four-part Value of Water Series. Each Friday in October, TUW is releasing a special episode in conjunction with the Value of Water Campaign – a US Water Alliance campaign – and Imagine a Day Without Water, which is October. 21.
The series will share diverse voices and perspectives on solving water access, equity and affordability issues starting with the role of one water before digging into the utility perspective, a community group perspective and finally a perspective from the ground floor on water access. In this episode, Bob interviews OJ McFoy, the general manager for Buffalo Sewer Authority, about the affordability programs that they have implemented in Buffalo, New York.
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Oct 9, 2020
Value of Water Series—One Water with Radhika Fox
This special episode of Talking Under Water is the first in a four-part series digging into the value of water. We are releasing a special series each Friday in October in conjunction with the Value of Water Campaign—a U.S. Water Alliance campaign—and Imagine a Day Without Water, which is October 21. The series will focus on sharing diverse voices and perspectives on solving water access, equity and affordability issues, starting with the role of one water before digging into the utility perspective, a community group perspective and finally a perspective from the ground floor on water access.
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Oct 2, 2020
Episode 33: Source Water Contamination
In this episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen discuss a trifecta of water-positive news, including new water technology investment in Cleveland aimed at creating a “blue economy,” the U.S. EPA’s proposed 2020 Financial Capability Assessment for the Clean Water Act, and a major tech company’s commitment to replenish more water than it consumes.
Finally, our interview this month is with Yu-Chun Su, Technical Director, Environmental & Water Resources Engineering at Lockwood, Andrews and Newnam. Katie spoke with Yu-Chun about best practices to prevent and control source water contamination, as well as long-term impacts across the water sector ranging from storm water to residential water quality.
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Sep 18, 2020
Episode 32: Acceleration of Digital Technologies
In this episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen discuss water sustainability goals driven by diverse industries including jeans manufacturers and unpack Chicago’s new equity-focused lead service line replacement program and its broader impacts.
Finally, they share an interview with Ralph Exton, chief marketing officer and chief digital officer for Suez Water Technologies and Solutions. Crossen spoke to Exton about the acceleration in adoption of digital technologies in 2020 and the impact of that trend in 2021 and beyond.
The podcast hosts also preview a special series. Talking Under Water will present the regular October episode to listeners early at the start of the month and each subsequent Friday the hosts will release a special episode in conjunction with the Value of Water Campaign—a U.S. Water Alliance campaign—and Imagine a Day Without Water, which is October 21. The series will focus on sharing divers…
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Aug 21, 2020
Episode 31: West Coast One Water Stories
In this episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen celebrate National Water Quality Month. They also dig into California’s new definition of microplastics in water, discuss recent research on the relationship between COVID-19 and wastewater, and explore the U.S. Water Prize 2020 winners.
Finally, they share an interview with Patrick Shields, general manager for the West Basin Municipal Water District in Los Angeles, California. Crossen speaks to Shields regarding challenges water scarcity places on his facility and how West Basin overcomes them through multiple programs and imported water sources.
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Jul 17, 2020
Episode 30: Water Quality Monitoring & Sustainable Solutions
In this episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen share an interview with Lisa Brand, CTO for LG Sonic. Brand touches on the importance of water quality monitoring in developing long-term, sustainable surface water treatment solutions, the impact algal blooms have on the U.S. economy and the role smart, sustainable solutions may play in water management moving forward.
The hosts also discuss a new U.S. EPA action under the Toxic Substances Control Act prohibiting long-chain PFAS, a new report covering groundwater depletion on the west coast and a new 20-year clean water plan in Northeast Ohio.
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Jul 2, 2020
Episode 29: Clean Water Partnerships & Storm Water Management
In this special stay-at-home episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Katie Johns, Lauren Del Ciello and Bob Crossen share an interview with Keisha Brown, partnership liaison for Corvias. Brown is involved in bring the Clean Water Partnership to several community-based organizations. She explains what the Clean Water Partnership is, why it has been effective and what to expect next.
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Jun 18, 2020
Episode 28: Equity & Resiliency
In this episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen discuss virtual events in the water industry amid COVID-19 concerns. The hosts also touch on the impacts of the recent Paycheck Protection Program Flexibility Act (PPPFA) and the Navajo Utah Water Rights Settlement Act. Finally, our interview this month is with Cynthia Koehler, the executive director of the WaterNow Alliance. The discussion explores the Tap Into Resilience Initiative. It also touches on green infrastructure and the coronavirus stimulus packages.
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Jun 5, 2020
Episode 27: Water Equity & Affordability
In this special stay-at-home episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen share an interview with Will Sarni, founder and CEO forWater Foundry. In the interview, Crossen and Sarni discuss equity and affordability during this time of crisis and the struggle that imposes on utilities.
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Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Water & Wastes Digest (WWD), Water Quality Products (WQP) and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews…
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May 14, 2020
Episode 26: Water Infrastructure Funding & Smart Water
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen discuss reopening building water systems following prolonged closures and how water professionals can work with their communities. The hosts also explore major water infrastructure packages on the horizon, including America’s Water Infrastructure Act of 2020 and the Drinking Water Infrastructure Act of 2020. Finally, they share an interview with Ed Quilty, CEO of Aquatic Informatics, on the evolution of smart water.
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May 8, 2020
Episode 25: The County of Maui v. Hawaii Wildlife Fund
In this special stay-at-home episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen provide an overview of The County of Maui v. Hawaii Wildlife Fund Supreme Court case and its potentially far reaching impacts on the water and wastewater industry for National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) permits. Hear from Nathan Gardner-Andrews, general counsel for the National Association of Clean Water Agencies; Jesse Richardson, professor of law and lead land use attorney for West Virginia University and attorney for National Ground Water Association (NGWA) and the Water Systems Council; and from Jay Stone, who is chief engineer and a senior associate at Belt Collins based in Honolulu, Hawaii, about the impacts this decision could have across municipal, residential and storm water sectors.
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Apr 17, 2020
Talking Under Water Episode 24: COVID-19’s Impact on the Water Industry
In this month's episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen host the first-ever completely remote podcast of TUW. They reflect on the Flint Water Crisis, which will have its 6 year anniversary on April 25, and discuss the WaterSense Renewal. Additionally, Crossen shares that the AWWA ACE Show, originally scheduled to take place in June in Orlando, has been canceled.
Finally, Crossen and Johns discuss their COVID-19 business impact survey results before diving into an interview with Nicole McLellan and Art Umble from Stantec to discuss the coronavirus’s impact on the water industry.
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Mar 27, 2020
Episode 23: Coronavirus & DC Fly-In
In this month's episode, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Katie Johns and Bob Crossen give an overview of Coronavirus and what it means for their respective industries. For water quality professionals, it means adjustments for in-home installs; municipal employees will still go to work, but the dangers with the virus have less to do with influent and effluent; and storm water professionals are gearing up for remote work changes. Finally, Del Ciello interviewd Kathleen Burbidge, Water Quality Association global government and regulatory affairs manager, about the WQA DC Fly-In and the feelings of legislators on the Hill. (Note: This trip occurred prior to Coronavirus taking over headlines.)
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Mar 19, 2020
Special Episode: WEF Executive Director Talks Coronavirus
In this special episode of Talking Under Water, host Bob Crossen speaks with WEF Executive Director Walt Marlowe about the effects Coronavirus — also known as COVID-19 — has had on the organization and industry at large. Talking points include the acceleration of remote work and distance technologies, effectiveness of current disinfection practices for water and wastewater treatment, flushable wipes, staffing, continuing education credits and more.
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Feb 21, 2020
Episode 22: Water Advocacy
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts WQP Managing Editor Lauren Del Ciello, WWD Senior Managing Editor Bob Crossen and SWS Managing Editor Katie Johns explore water advocacy issues through recent water industry news. The hosts start the episode with an interesting infrastructure discovery of a 7,300-year-old Neolithic water well in the Czech Republic. They then touch on the new Navigable Waters Protection Rule which will replace the Waters of the U.S. rule. Finally, the hosts discuss the impacts of a new study investigating the effectiveness of water treatment filters for PFAS removal.
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Jan 17, 2020
Episode 21: Funding
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Bob Crossen, Lauren Del Ciello and Katie Johns discuss the success of the Egyptian National Program for the Safe Use of Treated Sewage Water for Afforestation. Additionally, they talk about the severe flooding in Jakarta, Indonesia, and the impact delayed infrastructure projects may be causing. Finally, the hosts interview Nathan Gardner-Andrews from the National Association of Clean Water Agencies about this month’s topic, funding.
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Jan 10, 2020
Special Episode: Cyber Security
This special episode of Talking Under Water has our hosts Bob, Lauren and Katie speaking with Randy Abrams, senior security analyst for OpSWAT. Abrams illuminated the common areas of risk for utilities and small business owners when it comes to data and information attacks, and explained some prevention options available to those users. Next week, the hosts are back with a regular episode including and interview with Nathan Gardner-Andrews from the National Association of Clean Water Agencies about funding for utilities.
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Dec 19, 2019
Episode 20: State of the Industry
Wrapping up 2019, Talking Under Water hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Bob Crossen and Katie Johns present a special State of the Industry episode. The episode features interviews from not just one, but six industry leaders reflecting on the state of the industry from their perspective segments of the water industry, including the wastewater sector, residential/commercial drinking water treatment sector, and storm water and erosion control sectors. Del Ciello, Crossen and Johns weave the interview clips with discussion delving into the issues explored, including mergers and acquisitions, a shifting regulatory landscape, a rise in emerging contaminants, a changing work force, and more. A special thanks to all of this month's podcast guests for sharing their industry insights, including Paul Turgeon; Megan Glover, CEO of 120 Water Audit; Pauli Undesser, executive director for WQA; Frank Brigano, vice president and senior research fellow for Marmon Water; Scott Barbour, CEO and president for ADS;…
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Nov 22, 2019
Episode 19: Energy Efficiency & Drives
In this month’s episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Lauren Del Ciello, Bob Crossen and Katie Johns unpack the recent U.S. EPA proposal to amend coal ash wastewater and monitoring rules. And they also discuss Ohio’s new H2Ohio plan, which aims to reduce algae blooms, improve wastewater infrastructure and prevent lead contamination. Lastly, due to a technical snafu, the planned interview for this month was changed from cyber security to energy efficiency and drives, as the hosts share an interview with Mads Warming of Danfoss during WEFTEC 2019.
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Oct 25, 2019
Talking Under Water Episode 18: Community Water
In this episode of Talking Under Water, host Bob Crossen shares a comment he received after last month’s discussion of the Silver Tsunami. Then, fellow hosts Lauren Del Ciello and Katie Johns share news regarding the EPA’s proposed revisions to the Lead and Copper Rule and discuss the Ocean Legacy Foundation’s recently launched E.P.I.C. plastic pollution program.
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Sep 27, 2019
Episode 17: One Water
In this episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Lauren Del Ciello and Bob Crossen welcome their new co-host, Katie Johns. The hosts discuss the U.S. EPA National Water Reuse Action Plan and touch on the repeal of Waters of the U.S. (WOTUS) language by EPA and the U.S. Army. They also explore the so-called "silver tsunami"—a shift in workforce age dynamics–in the water industry through each of their sectors. Finally, the hosts share an interview recorded live at WEFTEC19 with Radhika Fox, CEO of the U.S. Water Alliance.
This episode of Talking Under Water is brought to you by Tsurumi Pump. Tsurumi Pump. Built for Work.
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Aug 23, 2019
Episode 16: Women in Water
In this episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Lauren Estes, Bob Crossen and Lauren Baltas discuss lead filters and water contamination issues in Newark, N.J., and changes to wastewater discharge limits for wineries in Washington state. They also interviewed Carolyn Howard, vice president and regional site development and infrastructure team leader for Draper Aden Associates, about women in the water industry. She provided advice for young professionals and insights on how the industry has changed with its attitude toward women.
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Jul 26, 2019
Episode 15: Smart Water Quality
This episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Lauren Baltas, Lauren Estes and Bob Crossen discuss a study on ancient groundwater, coastal flooding in New Orleans and a river restoration project that includes wastewater infiltration to refill a groundwater aquifer. The three then interview Travis Smith, director of smart water strategy for Sensus, as well as Chris Thompson, product manager for Sensus. Smith and Thompson discuss the importance of smart water for volumetric data analytics and why adding water quality metrics to smart water systems will be critical for municipalities moving forward.
This episode of Talking Under Water is brought to you by the U.S. Water Alliance One Water Summit Sept. 18 to 20 in Austin, Texas. The One Water Summit is the premier national conference focused on sustainable, integrated, and inclusive approaches to managing water, our most precious natural resource. Registration closes Aug. 1.
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Jun 27, 2019
Episode 14: Flooding in the Midwest
In the June 2019 episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Lauren Estes, Lauren Baltas and Bob Crossen discuss the impacts of groundwater pumping, as well as the 50-year anniversary of the Cuyahoga River fire. They also speak with Rob Moore, senior policy analyst for the Natural Resources Defense Council, about flooding in the Midwest.
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Jun 14, 2019
Special Episode: AWWA ACE19
In this special episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Bob Crossen and Lauren Estes speak to water professionals at AWWA ACE19. Tune in to hear their interviews with Meena Sankaran of Ketos and Rick Bacon of Aqua Metrology Systems. One water and smart water are more important than ever, and their conversations reflect that.
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May 23, 2019
Episode 13: Young Professionals
In the May episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Bob Crossen, Lauren Baltas and Lauren Estes discuss recent news, including an updated map of U.S., per- and polyfluoralkyl substance (PFAS)contamination, the U.S. Water Alliance on-site non-potable water system commission and the upcoming Water Expo. The hosts then connected with Samantha Coppels from Daphne Utilities, a WWD 2019 Young Professional, to discuss the future of the industry and the importance of public outreach.
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May 15, 2019
Special Episode: WQA Convention & Exposition 2019
In this special episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, WQP Managing Editor Lauren Estes shares interviews with attendees of the Water Quality Assn. Convention & Exposition 2019. First, Estes caught up with James Peterson, product manager for Crystal IS, to discuss disinfection technology and show trends. Next, she spoke with Vince Abendroth, who was honored with WQA's Lifetime Achievement Award at the show. Finally, she connected with Tom Kinnane, WQP's November 2018 Dealer of the Month, to discuss hot topics at the 2019 show.
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Apr 26, 2019
Episode 12: Water Scarcity & Coastal Flooding
In the April episode of Talking Under Water, co-hosts Lauren Baltas and Bob Crossen welcome new co-host Lauren Estes. They discuss water scarcity issues related to their "Day Zero" coverage, including coastal flooding across the U.S., and the effects of PFAS on the environment. Crossen also discusses his experience at Water Week in Washington and the different hot topics covered at the event. Finally, the hosts interview Mark Piesik, director of of sales for water and public power for Itron, and pick his brain on how leak detection and non-revenue water relate to the overarching conversation on water scarcity in the industry.
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Mar 22, 2019
Episode 11: Commercial Water
In this episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Bob Crossen and Lauren Baltas say goodbye to Amy McIntosh as she moves to another magazine within their parent company. Also discussed is Neptune-Benson becoming the water quality sponsor for USA Swimming, the recently introduced Water Quality Protection and Jobs Creation Act of 2019 bill in Washington, and research into PFAS from the University of Arizona. Amy and Lauren also respectively recap recent travel to Washington, D.C. for a fly-in with WQA and the IECA Conference & Expo in Denver. Finally, the hosts close out the episode with an interview with Glenn Wieczorek of Tsurumi America about commercial systems, trends in public and private water systems and conservation strategies for commercial and municipal entities.
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Feb 22, 2019
Episode 10: River Engineering
In this episode of Talking Under Water, hosts Bob Crossen, Lauren Baltas and Amy McIntosh discuss some recent news, including an omnibus appropriations bill, the U.S. EPA's official PFAS action plan, and Cape Town's plan for water resiliency. Then the hosts talk to Scott Shipley, three-time Olympian and five-time world champion paddler, who turned his affinity for whitewater sports into an engineering career, specializing in river engineering, whitewater park design, and the design and build of community-focused river parks.
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Jan 25, 2019
Episode 9: Legislation & Lead
In this first episode of 2019, hosts Amy McIntosh, Bob Crossen and Lauren Baltas discuss the newly signed Water Infrastructure Improvement Act and give an update on the Newark, N.J., lead contamination. Then the hosts interview Kenan Ozekin, Fernando L. Rosario-Ortiz, and Amanda Kay Hohner, members of the research team that collaborated on the Water Research Foundation's report "Wildfire Impacts on Drinking Water Treatment Process Performance: Development of Evaluation Protocols and Management Practices."
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Dec 20, 2018
Episode 8: Waters of the United States
In this last episode of 2018, hosts Lauren Baltas, Amy McIntosh and Bob Crossen talk about the proposed Waters of the U.S. ruling and what it could mean for waterways across the country. They also recap their recent trip to Los Angeles where they visited the Terminal Island Water Reclamation Plant, Blue-White Industries, the Bolivar Park storm water project and Puroserve Water Conditioning. Finally, the interview this month is with John Foley, the vice president of Puroserve Water Conditioning, and how the wildfires in California are affecting water quality, his customers and his business.
Happy Holidays and Happy New Year!
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Nov 21, 2018
Episode 7: State of Our Industries
In this episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, hosts Bob Crossen, Lauren Baltas and Amy McIntosh review some winners of One Water Awards in New Jersey and also discuss the states of their respective industries. Unsurprisingly there is overlap with the topic of skilled labor, succession planning and replacing retiring employees. The hosts also interviewed Riggs Eckelberry, CEO and president of OriginClear, about one water trends in the municipal, industrial, residential, commercial and storm water markets.
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Oct 25, 2018
Episode 6: Water Equity
In this episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, your hosts Amy, Lauren and Bob discuss the importance of water equity, the act of ensuring a safe, affordable and accessible water future for all people. They kick off the episode talking about The Value of Water Campaign and their individual water footprints to commemorate "A Day Without Water." Bob also interviews U.S. Water Prize winner Emma Robbins from DigDeep about her involvement in bringing safe, affordable water to Navajo communities in the U.S.
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Oct 12, 2018
Special Episode: WEFTEC 18
In this special episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, Amy, Lauren and Bob share interviews from the Water Environment Federation Technical Exhibition and Conference in New Orleans. The hosts spoke with The Water Council about its BREW Accelerator program, to ESRI about smart storm water technology and to Inductive Automation about the shift from design-bid-build to design-build.
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Sep 28, 2018
Episode 5: Hurricane Florence
In the fifth episode of Talking Under Water, One Water, One Podcast, your hosts Bob Crossen, Amy McIntosh and Lauren Baltas review recent news items about water scarcity, equipment affordability and Hurricane Florence. They discuss the impact of the storm in terms of flooding and how that effected hog farms and coal ash ponds. Additionally, McIntosh talks about the storm cancelling the Water Quality Association Mid-year Leadership Conference in Hilton Head, S.C., and provides an interview with WQA Executive Director Pauli Undesser about how they took a physical conference virtual.
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Aug 23, 2018
Episode 4: Water-Related Travels
In this episode of Talking Under Water: One Water, One Podcast, hosts Water Quality Products Managing Editor Amy McIntosh, Storm Water Solutions Managing Editor Lauren Baltas and Water & Wastes Digest Managing Editor Bob Crossen discuss their recent travel adventures, including Day Zero water scarcity coverage in Arizona, connections at StormCon and storm water management coverage at the Morton Arboretum in Lisle, Ill. The hosts also discuss recent one water-related news, such as untreated wastewater discharges and lead in drinking water. Amy and Lauren preview their forays into lead testing in Chicago.
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Jul 27, 2018
Talking Under Water Episode 3: One Water Musings
In this third episode of Talking Under Water: One Water, One Podcast, hosts Storm Water Solutions Managing Editor Lauren Baltas, Water Quality Products Managing Editor Amy McIntosh and Water & Wastes Digest Managing Editor Bob Crossen revisit their discussion about plastics in waterways as Starbucks and other corporations make moves to eliminate straws. McIntosh discusses her recent trip to the Texas Water Quality Assn. annual conference and the effects of tariffs on the water quality industry, namely resins. Crossen talks about his trip to the One Water Summit in Minneapolis and how water equity was the underlying theme among sessions. Lastly, the hosts interviewed Melanie Holmer, National Water Reuse Leader for Brown and Caldwell. Holmer talked about several one water efforts happening right now and explained what one water means to her.
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Jun 26, 2018
Special Episode: AWWA ACE18 Recap
In this special episode of Talking Under Water: One Water, One Podcast, editors Bob Crossen, Amy McIntosh and Lauren Baltas recap their experiences at the American Water Works Assn. Annual Convention and Expo in Las Vegas. McIntosh and Baltas discuss the opening general session led by keynote speaker Ira Flatow from NPR's Science Friday, and highlight sessions they attended. Crossen shares three interviews from the showfloor with industry experts regarding small systems, smart water, machine learning and artificial intelligence for predictive analytics of pipe breaks.
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Jun 22, 2018
Episode 2: Pollution in Waterways
In this second episode of Talking Under Water, your hosts Water Quality Products Managing Editor Amy McIntosh, Storm Water Solutions Managing Editor Lauren Baltas and Water & Wastes Digest Managing Editor Bob Crossen discuss pollution in waterways, namely plastics and microplastics in water. The team also discusses its trip to Lake Mead and the Hoover Dam that includes an interview with Dan Bunk from the Bureau of Reclamation. Lastly, the editors preview their July issues.
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May 25, 2018
Episode 1: Cape Town Follow-up
Welcome to the first episode of Talking Under Water: One water, one podcast. In this episode, your hosts Storm Water Solutions Managing Editor Lauren Baltas, Water Quality Products Managing Editor Amy McIntosh and Water & Wastes Digest Managing Editor Bob Crossen discuss a pipe-fitting mistake at a library and follow up on the current status of Cape Town as it continues to fend off Day Zero. Additionally, the editors attended a tour of Lake Michigan and the Chicago River courtesy of the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District of Greater Chicago. The tour included visiting the site of the Dever Water Intake Crib, several storm sewer outfalls along the river and a park along the banks that used biosolids for landscaping fertilizer. Lastly, Baltas, McIntosh and Crossen preview their June issues ahead of print.
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