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PHP Town Hall
Ben Edmunds, Matt Trask
PHP Town Hall is a podcast from Ben Edmunds and Matt Trask that raises questions about current events (or upcoming things) in the PHP community, with different guests each episode.
Dec 14, 2021
Here lies dynamic properties. They were good properties Brent.
Matt and Ben are joined by Colin O'Dell, staff engineer at Wayfair and supporter of the twitter dividing Dynamic Properties RFC to discuss what this RFC really means for PHP going forward and if its really a good idea. They also talk to Colin about what its like to change jobs after a long tenure (13 years) at his previous job, what he likes and doesn't like about using a Mac for a daily work computer and also managing one of the biggest OSS libraries for PHP: CommonMark. Show Notes: Deprecate Dynamic Properties RFC Colin on Twitter Colin's blog Reference to the good dogs big
Oct 27, 2021
Episode 83: A catch up and a car crash
Ben and Matt catch up since its been a minute since it's just the two of them have talked. They talk all kinds of things about life, conferences, getting hit by a car and how to best impersonate Chuck Norris style rolls.
1 hr 13 min
Jul 31, 2021
Episode 82: Another UUID bites the dust.
Ben and Matt are joined by Ben Ramsey to talk about what it like being in charge of PHP 8.1, his new gig at Skillshare and we ponder the question: do all good uuids go to heaven? Links: * Ben Ramsey on Twitter * Ben’s UUID Library * PHP Release Process * Ben’s PHP Library starter kit * Rand’s Leadership Slack
1 hr 12 min
Jun 8, 2021
Episode 81: The Book of Psalm
Matt and Ben are joined by PsalmPHP author and maintainer Matthew Brown to talk about static analysis, open source maintanence, how he and Ondrej Mirtes made a nice contribution to the PHP Coore and how to get Matthew out to more conferences so people can buy him the beers he so rightfully deserves. Show Notes: Psalm Matthew on Twitter
Mar 20, 2021
Episode 80: Belles Of The Ball
Matt and Ben are joined by the founder of Larabelles community Zuzana Kunckova to talk about why communities are so crucial to developer growth, what it takes to start a comnmunity and why Zuzana started Larabelles. We then dive into how she got her start as a developer, where her career has taken her and what is gonna happen with conferences after this whole covid thing is over. Show Notes: LarabellesPHP Zuzana on Twitter
Mar 8, 2021
Episode 79: Fell In Love With A Tree: The Phil Sturgeon Story
Ben and Matt sit down to talk to Phil Sturgeon… yes that Phil Sturgeon for their once every 2 year check in with the former host of this very podcast. They talk about what it’s like to bikepack across Europe during working hours, how Phil knew what issues needed to be addressed immediately and which he could push off to later and then they talk about his current project which involves APIs and trees. Links: https://protect.earth - Trees foundation Phil is involved with https://twitter.com/philsturgeon - Phil’s place on the internet https://apisyouwonthate.com - Phil and Matt’s other project
1 hr 1 min
Nov 10, 2020
Episode 78: Into The Woodchipper
Matt and Ben are joined by Chris Fidao (who watched with horror as Matt butchered his last name). The conversation takes a deep dive into how Chris and Dave Hemphill built ChipperCI include the why, the how and what were some of the fun challenges to building a CI service. We talked briefly about how Chris found good use cases for Golang, but Chris still loves PHP. Links: https://twitter.com/fideloper - Chris Fidao on Twitter https://twitter.com/davidhemphill - David Hemphill on Twitter https://chipperci.com https://serversforhackers.com
Sep 1, 2020
Episode 77: Lets be Frank
Matt and Ben are joined by the League of Extraordinary Packages chief benevolent dictator for life Frank De Jonge (@frankdejonge. Its pronounced “de-yong”, not like how Matt pronounced it. He is sorry). We talk about Frank’s contributions to the League, and how it makes him feel to have a package download count in the 8 digits. Frank also talks about his work on Eventsauce (eventsauce.io) an event driven framework that integrates well into most PHP projects.
Jul 21, 2020
Episode 76: Mad Max DevRel
The Twilio crew, bored because they can’t go to conferences to show people the cool shit you can build with their APIs, take over the podcast to talk about life as a grounded devrel. Matt is joined by Margaret Staples (@dead_lugosi), Gary Hockin (@geeh) and back to back guest Marcus Battle (@themarcusbattle). We discuss the Twilio Quest project and how Twilio is leveraging new ways for their dev rels to get their brand out there. We also talk about what we miss most about not being able to go to conferences and drink with friends. It got a little dark there. Sorry. Enjoy!
Jun 29, 2020
Episode 75: Battle of the Frameworks
Matt and Ben are joined by Marcus Battle to talk about his career path from being a data nerd at WebDev Studios to being a content creator and curator at Twilio. We talk about how much work is involved being a total grammar junky, and does Marcus get early access to things like the supposed Twilio Pigeon API. We also talk about the coveted Twilio swag from back in the days where we were allowed to go to conferences. Then we nerd out about music for a minute. Show Notes: Twilio PHP SDK
1 hr 2 min
Apr 28, 2020
Episode 74: Composer Self Update
Matt Trask and Ben Edmunds are joined by Jordi Bggiano and Nils Adermann to celebrate Composer finally figuring out how to self invoke its own composer self-upgrade command. We discuss the origins of the project, how they deal with the fame they have found, how they run their business and OSS project and how people who like the project can help give back! Show Notes: Packagist/Composer Blog
Mar 2, 2020
Episode 73: The League of Extraordinary FIG
Matt Trask and Ben Edmunds are joined by Woody Gilk. We talk about what its like to birth a framework, and then mercilessly kill it. We also talk about how Woody got involved with the League of Extraordinary Packages and how someone can get involved with the PHP FIG.
Feb 1, 2020
Episode 72: 200 OK Boomer
Matt Trask and Ben Edmunds sit down for a general catch up episode discussing what’s new with them in the past year or so. Jobs, moves, relationships, and Matt’s developing delusion that he actually enjoys impossible burgers.
Jan 13, 2020
Episode 71: Forging Happy Developers
Matt Trask and Ben Edmunds are joined by James Brooks to discuss what it’s like working for Laravel, his new podcast HappyDev, and mental health for software developers. Links * Laravel * Forge * HappyDev
Nov 20, 2019
Episode 70: Dries-int up your controllers
Matt Trask is joined by Dries Vints to talk about being employed by Laravel, organizing a conference, why the Last Jedi is absolute garbage, and how Dries manages to do so much (spoiler: don’t have a significant other). Links * Laravel * Laravel.io * FullStackEu * Eventy * Dries’ Blog
Sep 4, 2019
Episode 68: Behind the Facade
Matt Trask and Ben Edmunds are joined by Taylor Otwell to discuss what’s new with Laravel, the business side of things, and what it’s like organizing a huge conference. Links * Laravel * Forge * Vapor * Ignition
1 hr 5 min
Jul 8, 2019
Episode 67: Zend Framework 3.Laminas
Matt Trask and Ben Edmunds are joined by Adam Culp to discuss the recent changes with Zend (the company), Zend (the framework), and the transition from Zend Framework to Laminas Framework. Links * Laminas * Nexmo Releated Stuff * Beachcasts * Video on Hypermedia * Video on automating Hypermedia
May 15, 2019
Episode 66: Getting Jitty Wit It
Matt Trask and Ben Edmunds are joined by Joe Watkins to discuss what’s new with PHP 7.4 and PHP 8.0.
May 3, 2019
Episode 65: Live from Longhorn PHP 2019
Matt Trask and Ben Edmunds are joined by a panel of speakers from Longhorn PHP to discuss the conference, PHP internals, and questions from the attendees. Our amazing panel guests this episode are: Alena Holligan Sammy K Powers Taylor Barnett Margaret Staples Chris Holland Kat Zień
1 hr 1 min
Apr 8, 2019
Episode 64: Symfony Round Up
Matt Trask and Amanda Folson are joined by Ryan Weaver to take a look at the landscape of the Symfony Ecosystem. They discuss a few new packages from the Symfony team such as Mailer, HTTP Interface, API Platform as well as discussing the EU’s funding of a 48 hour hackathon that Ryan woke up at 3am in the morning for. Links * Symfony
Apr 8, 2019
Episode 63: Dollar Bills Yall - Part 2
Matt Trask and Ben Edmunds are joined by Jason McCreary to discuss further discuss investing and trading. This episode gets a bit more in the weeds on investing and trading for those interested, discussing everything from 401k to index funds to speculation. We also briefly cover Financial Independence / Retire Early (FIRE) and how developers are well positioned to work towards financial independence. Links * RobinHood * FireCalc * MrMoneyMustache FIRE Math
1 hr 13 min
Feb 18, 2019
Episode 62: All the Hosts
Matt Trask, Ben Edmunds, and Amanda Folson are joined by our deported former co-host Phil Sturgeon. There’s not much of an agenda to this episode. We all catch up on what’s new with Phil and we fill him in on what’s new with PHP.
1 hr 13 min
Jan 16, 2019
Episode 61: Dollar Bills Yall - Part 1
Matt Trask and Ben Edmunds are joined by Jason McCreary and Anthony Fox to discuss budgeting and personal finance for developers. This episode takes a high level view and focuses on how new developers can make good decisions and avoid common pitfalls that come along with that first “developer money” paycheck. We’ll be back for part 2 shortly. Links * You Need a Budget YNAB * Acorns * Vanguard * MrMoneyMustache * CreditKarma * Debitize app * Principles - Ray Dalio
1 hr 2 min
Dec 9, 2018
Episode 60: Education, Bootcamps, and the Cool Factor
Matt Trask and Ben Edmunds are joined by Peggy Fisher and Ryan Tablada to discuss the general state of computer science education, developer bootcamps, landing that first job, and why PHP isn’t ususally taught to new developers.
1 hr 2 min
Oct 23, 2018
Episode 59: Startup Lyfe - Part 2
Amanda Folson and Ben Edmunds are joined by Mike Wales, Chris Boden, and Daniel Cousineau once again, to finish our discussion about working at and founding startups. This is part two of two.
1 hr 37 min
Oct 8, 2018
Episode 58: Startup Lyfe - Part 1
Amanda Folson and Ben Edmunds are joined by Mike Wales, Chris Boden, and Daniel Cousineau to discuss working at and founding startups. This is part one of two. Part two is coming in a few weeks.
1 hr 24 min
Aug 5, 2018
Episode 57: APIs, Conferences, API Conferences, and Horrible Flights
Matt Trask and Ben Edmunds are joined by Tessa Mero to discuss their conference organizing experience and the conferences they are putting on in the coming months. Links Southeast PHP Conference API Strat Conference API City Conference Southeast PHP Poster
1 hr 5 min
Jan 11, 2018
Episode 56: GraphQL is better than REST
Amanda Folson and Ben Edmunds are joined by Phil Sturgeon to discuss what’s new in the world of API development. Make sure to check out his new book Talking To Other People’s APIs. Sponsor We’re sponsored this episode by the Southeast PHP Conference: Southeast PHP Community Conference in Nashville, TN is happening August 16th and 17th right in downtown Nashville. Our CfP opens February 15th with a theme around the modern PHP toolbox. Come hang out with us, listen to awesome speakers talk about a wide variety of topics, meet new friends and of course, try some hot chicken. southeastphp.com and @southeastphp on twitter. If you or your company is interested in sponsoring, contact us at email@example.com
Nov 14, 2017
Episode 55: The Hardest Problem in Software
Amanda Folson and Ben Edmunds are joined by Mike Wales and Michael Lopp to discuss the hardest problem in software - people. Also make sure to check out the books recommended during this episode: * Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High * Nine Minutes on Monday: The Quick and Easy Way to Go From Manager to Leader * Radical Candor: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity * Managing Humans: Biting and Humorous Tales of a Software Engineering Manager
1 hr 14 min
Aug 21, 2017
Episode 54: Conferences and Stuff
Amanda Folson and Ben Edmunds are joined by Daniel Cousineau, Tracy Hinds, Ian Littman, and Matt Trask to discuss the good, bad, and ugly of conference organizing. Make sure to check out the kickstarter for the Longhorn PHP Conference.
1 hr 16 min
Apr 12, 2017
Episode 53: Developer Relations, Travel, and Bedbugs with Jessica Rose
Amanda Folson and Ben Edmunds are joined by Jessica Rose to discuss developer relations, travel, and bedbugs.
1 hr 35 min
Jan 19, 2017
Episode 52: What Do We Do Now?
Amanda Folson officially takes the co-host reins! We ease you in to the transition by Ben grilling… ahem… interviewing Amanda a bit so you can get to know her better.
Jan 7, 2017
Episode 51: Good Riddance
In this episode Ben and Phil discuss what’s new in their pathetic little lives, the state of the PHP-FIG, and bid an ecstatic.. ahem.. sad farewell to Phil as he departs the podcast. Starting with Episode 51 Amanda Folson will be taking over as co-host. Ben is staying so don’t worry, we know he’s your favorite. Phil, Thanks for 51 fucking fantastic episodes, 5 years of podcasting together, way too much booze, and a lot of fun.
Jun 27, 2016
Episode 50: Low down on PSR-15
An all star cast this episode, as Ben and Phil are joined by regular guest Anthony Ferrara - thinker of good ideas and long-time part-time side-line contributor to the PHP-FIG, Woody Gilk - one-speed rider & BDFL of Kohana, and Beau Simensen - author of a bunch of stuff including StackPHP. Here we’re talking about some awesome stuff the PHP-FIG is working on: PSR-15 (HTTP Middleware). This PSR is in Draft mode, and is potentially not as well known about as some others. There was a bit of a cuffufle getting it started as before it had even passed an entrance vote there were alternatives and rewrites suggested, but now the major players are on the same page and things are moving forward. We discuss all this, and the reason PSR-7 (HTTP Message) is not enough for the ecosystem to benefit from shareable middleware. Jumping away from PSR-15 for a second there is an interesting bit of insight into why the PHP-FIG didn’t just slap a “PSR” sticker on Symfony’s HTTP Kernel or HTTP Fo…
Mar 16, 2016
Episode 49: Async and Stuff
The notes for this episode were lost when Phil spilt some really hipster orange juice over his laptop and bricked the whole thing. We do remember that returning guest Chris Boden and Chris Pitt swing by to talk async in PHP. In a future episode we’ll probably talk about data backup strategies. * Benchmarking Codswallop: NodeJS vs PHP - An oldie but a goody, why NodeJS isn’t magically better at async than PHP * Ratchet - WebSockets for PHP * A Case for Async PHP - Chris Pitt wrote about this stuff on Medium * icicle.io - Write asynchronous code using synchronous coding techniques in PHP
1 hr 6 min
Feb 15, 2016
Episode 48: Code of Conduct
User-group and meet-up organizer Jenny Wong swings by for a chat about the PHP RFC for a Code of Conduct. Whilst all three of us think a Code of Conduct is a good idea, we talk through some of the various for and against reasoning that people have, and try to outline the logical failures behind some of the FUD being spread around during this discussion. We cover a few things, from the intent of a Code of Conduct, explain it’s reach is not as scary as many seem to think, outline a few things that a Code of Conduct does not try to do, and talk about some of the problems minorities have at conferences and online which could be simplified over time with a useful CoC. This is one of our best episodes yet. Even if you hate Phil and think he’s turned into some sort of social justice warrior white knighting whatever, listen to this and see if the conversation is starting to make more sense to you. The goal here is to open a few minds, and bring people to the table so a useful conversat…
1 hr 33 min
Feb 6, 2016
Episode 47: SunshinePHP Town Stack Hall Radio
Another SunshinePHP, and another rotating panel of excellent guests talking about stuff like podcasting, making a bit of money on the side from projects like books and whatnot, and we get some folks on to cover the FIG Secretary positions, which will hopefully help the FIG solve their identity problems. Oh and Ben Marks was definitely talking about Magento again.
1 hr 4 min
Dec 27, 2015
Episode 46: Christmas Theraphpy
Ben and Phil have a little catch-up to try and get things back on track after a little 2015 lag. Basically this episode is just Sober Phil having a massive vent about how daft some people are on the Internet. For some reason he accidentally read some /r/lolphp and got into an argument about how they think that PHP 7 is purely a cosmetic change. This was a good excuse to re-emphisize what an awesome set of fundamental changes PHP 7 really was. Ben and Phil then discuss the FIGs identity crisis before Phil goes off on another ramble about that. We’ll cover that better on later episodes!
1 hr 11 min
Sep 12, 2015
Episode 45: Live from PNWPHP
Live from PNWPHP ‘15, Ben and Phil are joined by guests Ben Marks, Yitzchok Willroth and later we are joined by returning guest Sara Golemon who popped in to talk about HHVM/Hack while Phil played waiter for the rest of the episode. Ben talks about Magento and some of his conference traveling madness, as does Yitz, who got trapped in a hotel for a whole weekend due to some interesting combination of Jewish holidays and an argument over the interational date line in New Zealand. Phil also tells us all about his NZ speeding ticket, mowing down possums like it’s Carmageddon, and makes a few terrible jokes because he’s scarily sober.
Jul 22, 2015
Episode 44: API Madness!
Listen to API pros Amanda Folson and Mike Stowe talk about API versioning, RAML, and all sorts of interesting API stuff. Phil ended up having a listen to this after the fact, and found it awesome! This episode is probably better for him not being there, as there are some opinions that didn’t initially match his, but they’re really interesting and make him reconsider a few things.
1 hr 3 min
Jun 11, 2015
Episode 43: Midnight Express
Your two favourite PHP developers are joined this episode by Emir Karşıyakalı off of PHPKonf and IstanbulPHP. Istanbul is not only a beautiful and awesome city, but it’s got a thriving PHP community too, who are currently hosting a whole bunch of PHP stars for their annual conference. Once again we promised to get this up before the conference to advertise it, and we’re releasing this audio version the night before, but what can we say… we’re shit at this.
May 22, 2015
Episode 42: Paul and Vance
After a little hiatus Phil and Ben back at it, joined this time by Paul Dragoonis and Vance Lucas. Paul does some fairly call stuff, manages the PPI framework and contributes to building the actual PHP.net website, the poor sod. Paul is also the winner in the “PHP developers from the UK who are hard to understand” contest two years running, only beating Phil to the title due to being slightly better at handling his booze. Vance works at NetSuite and has open-sourced a bunch of code things, most notably phpdotenv and frisby. We all have a little natter, share some of our horror stories from projects including PHP.net, and talk about Phil’s recent blog post about how hard it is to be a famous PHP rockstar guru.
1 hr 5 min
Apr 18, 2015
Episode 41: Loosely Town Hall - Dallas Edition
This episode is brought to you from thunderstruck Dallas, as part of the awesome conference that is Lone Star PHP. We are joined once again by the dynamic duo Jeff Carouth and Matt Frost off of the Loosely Coupled podcast! We mostly make a bunch of bad jokes then drag up the audience to talk about stuff. Lets be honest, this was a bit of a crapshoot, but Elizabeth Smith goes into some detail on PECL and the problems of ownership. PSR-7 is chatted about for the 19th time and Jordi talks a bit about pickles. Also, we debate “haytch” vs. “atch” as the correct pronunciation of the “H” in HTTP. Important stuff. Audio only this time folks!
1 hr 6 min
Mar 20, 2015
Episode 40: Return of the Ferrara
Regular guest Anthony Ferrara joins us “in the studio” to talk about the new version of his scalar type hints, which since recording - a f**king month ago - has been accepted for PHP 7. We thought it would be good to have a bit of a chat about the feature, the nonsense that surrounded it and a bunch of other random internals and PHP 7 related blathering.
1 hr 25 min
Mar 12, 2015
Episode 39: Hi Josh!
Phil and Ben catch up with Josh Lockhart who has been on the show a few times before. Josh is involved in some great projects and interested in some new tools, which all kinda wind in together. PHP, FIG, League, etc. * Josh joined the FIG * PSR-7 which is gonna be used in Slim 3 * New Stuff in Slim PHP 3.0 * The new league/uploads project - more info on the League mailing list We touch on a few topics, and really this one is just a fun fluid chat with a really relaxed guest.
Feb 7, 2015
Episode 37: Sunshine Round-Hall? Town-Table?
We all know that SunshinePHP is one of the PHP communities finest conferences. It attends an amazing group of people, wonderful speakers and Rasmus usually pops in for a drive-by-keynote. Every conference Phil or Ben attend has some vague promise of “yeah we’ll probably try and do a recording there or something,” but this SunshinePHP we actually did it, all thanks to the wonderful Sammy K off of PHP Roundtable. The topic this time around was that of APIs, and we were joined by an all star panel: * Sara Golemon * Josh Lockart * Eryn O’Neil * Matthew Weier O’Phinney * Davey Shafik * Mike Stowe Watch this. It’s hilarious. Shownotes are lacking, because we clearly weren’t writing anything down.
1 hr 13 min
Feb 2, 2015
Episode 36: PSR-7 and The World of Tomorrow
Two awesome guests join this week, from two different framework projects, both who have been very vocal about their interest in PSR-7: HTTP Message. These two chaps were Hari K T and Matthew Weier O’Phinney. Now PSR chats can be a little boring when its about autoloading or tabs v bloody spaces, but this PSR could have some really big impact on the way you write PHP over the next few years. We talk a bunch about Aura and Zend and their plans around middlewares, what motivated Matthew to get involved with taking over PSR-7, what middlewares mean for PHP in general and some of the concerns that have been fixed in recent iterations of the PSR like mutability, streams, etc. There also a bit of chat about turtles, standing desks and broken ribs, while Phil slowly goes loopy on pain killers. * 7PHP Interview with Josh Lockhart - “The Guy Behind ‘PHP The Right Way’ – Find Good Online Resources And Communities & Use Them To Your Advantage” * Experimenting on a different F…
Jan 9, 2015
Episode 35: Developer to CTO and Back
The grass is always greener on the other side, but we have a little talk with Gary Hockin and regular guest Jacques Woodcock about the pros and cons of going up and down the chain of command in the developer world. After all, it doesn’t just need to be a one-way street. We also talk about a few general bits, like whether PHP 5.7 should have happened, should we cry over spilled constructors and Gary bangs on for ages about how Waterfall is better than Agile.
1 hr 22 min
Jan 9, 2015
Episode 34: /dev/hell Mashup
This is a big one. We’ve had Chris “The Grumpy Programmer” Hartjes and Ed “The Grumpy Podcaster” Finkler on our show before, but this time they both join us for a mashup! We talk about the perils of being opinionated people speaking in public. Chris basically just says fuck Reddit and all of its minions of evil, and Phil gives a bit of insight into why he gets stuck in so many arguments. We move on to chatting about PHP, and how people feel about a strong new demand for more async features. Is it better to leave that to other tools, or should we try and fit some into the language itself, and the ecosystem around it? The last chunk of this podcast ends with a discussion around CodeIgniter 3.0 supporting PHP 5.2 and up. Should it be higher? Is it feckless to release like this? Should this be a documentation change to warn users away or a hard change to make it not even work there? Also, who has the best beard? Hint: it isn’t Phil. * Api Blueprint * Apiary * Dredd…
1 hr 33 min
Nov 19, 2014
Episode 33: CakePHP, Monga and RFCs
This episode we’re joined by two two top CakePHPers Jose Diaz-Gonzalez and Bryan Crowe. Ben is AWOL, Phil is insanely jet-lagged and has no idea what he is talking about. Our awesome guests try their best to carry Phil through the show, where we discuss exciting new stuff happening with CakePHP, and what we think of a few current RFCs being discussed in PHP land. We also talk a bit about Monga, a League package which Bryan has now assumed the role of project lead. It took a while to get this one out, but the next recording will be December 28th and it’s going to be a Christmas mash-up with /dev/hell. Now that Phil has stopped being homeless we’re going to get more regular, and drastically improve the quality of this podcast. Do not miss out!
Nov 4, 2014
Episode 32: Ben and Phil Catch Up
This week Ben and Phil take some time to catch up on each others lives and let you listen in. Ben doesn’t remember how to code. Phil is leaving PHP for Rails. They’re both moving again. Since we don’t have any cool tools to recommend this week you should buy our books to support the podcast: Building Secure PHP Apps - Ben Edmunds Build APIs You Won’t Hate - Phil Sturgeon PHP APIs and Security Bundle - Bundle of both books together
1 hr 3 min
Oct 16, 2014
Episode 31: The One about Hot Dogs
This week Ben and Phil are joined last minute by repeat guests Kayla Daniels and Matt Frost. We talk waaaaay too much about hotdogs, Phil’s fun-employment, cocaine, and what’s new in PHP-land. The recommended cool stuff of the episode is: Dossier - super secret stealth mode project for managing talk abstracts No Capes - Live Interviews with prominent speakers, community members and package developers in the PHP Community WurstCon - The wurst conference in the US of A SideSwell - beautiful side project execution tool Treehouse - learn to program yo
Aug 25, 2014
Episode 30: Specs, Implementations, and New Engines OH MY!
This week Ben and Phil are joined by core PHP developer extraordinaires Andrea Faulds and Levi Morrison. We discuss the new PHP engine spec, various RFCs, and all things internals. Also PHP 6 is officially dead, let’s have a moment of silence.
1 hr 15 min
Jul 30, 2014
Episode 29: Dont Mention PHP 6 v PHP 7
This week Ben and Phil are joined by long distance target shooter Paul M. Jones and the handsome man that is Daniel Lowrey, to talk about a whole bunch of PHP relating things. Paul has recently been talking a lot about “Action Domain Responder” which is billed as a more representative replacement of the often mis-used “Model View Controller” architecture. Luckily he does a good job of ELI5 so we don’t get too lost, and we talk a bit about how ADR helps with putting content negotiation in a logical place. Daniel then goes on to talk about a few awesome topics, including some of the OpenSSL changes in 5.6, and a HTTP server he is working on built entirely from PHP. It’s async, non-blocking and web-scale. We cover HTTP 2 and its effect on PHP, give some thoughts on PSR-7 HTTP Message, talk about Aura and finally when Phil could hold it no more, we had a big rant about PHP 6 v PHP 7 which - at the time - was still being voted on. The end result is of course that PHP 7 won.…
1 hr 20 min
Jul 10, 2014
Episode 28: Loosley Coupled Mashup
In this episode, Ben and Phil join forces with Loosely Coupled to talk about Open Source, burn out and briefly discuss their favorite open source projects. Jeff was out of action for a lot of it due to unexpected wifi troubles (in San Francisco of all places) so he sadly did not get to take part as much as he would have liked. Questions this time around: How do you deal nicely with someone who’s too reliant on you for solving problems and is too quick to ask you rather than figure it out themselves? – TazeTSchnitzel How do you guys explain OSS to non tech people? My wife finds it strange that I do work for “free” – Chuck Reeves As a contractor, how do you feel about “OSS” clauses (that your work can/will be open sourced) in contracts? – Davey Shafik If you aren’t following Jeff and Matt then definitely go and do that: * Jeff Carouth * Matt Frost The video is less edited than the audio, so download and listen for a slightly shorter and more relevant version.
1 hr 54 min
Jun 29, 2014
Episode 27: Josh Lockhart and Jeremy Mikola
This episode is a long one, but we are back to improved audio and the video is not just one dude eating pzza for an hour. Josh Lockhart of PHP The Right Way and Slim fame, and Jeremy Mikola who is well known for banging on about clouds and playing magic the gathering. Oh, he also works for MongoDB. Warning: Puns and occasional swears. Some projects have been discovering they use language which can be offensive like master/slave. How do they deal with it, and how should they deal with it? We ask Joshua what the plans for are for Slim 3, and talk a bit about the differences between Slim and Silex. We also ask him about the history of PHP The Right Way: how it got started and how it has evolved over time with contributions and huge efforts from the PHP community. Phil rants about illuminate/pagination having hard dependencies and tries to make excuses up for not sending a pull request, then comically days later caves and sends a pull request. The whole gang discuss difficulties of ma…
1 hr 32 min
Jun 18, 2014
Episode 26: Hello Front Range!
The Front Range PHP user-group joins the show as a live audience for the episode 26, in a new crazy bonus format which Phil thought might be fun. The idea of the episode is for people to generally pick our brain about PHP and code and tech and things. It kinda worked but the sound quality was terrible. Sorry about that folks. They ask us a bunch of questions about how we got started in PHP. * Picking a framework that would last 10 years for enterprise? * How to migrate from CodeIgniter to Laravel? * What do you use for integration tests? The video provides great insight into what you lot look like when you’re sat at a user group shoving pizza into your face, which we thought might be different for our viewers. That might also be a lie, and we accidentally left it on the wrong camera, but hey… there is a MP3 version too.
May 28, 2014
Episode 25: Girls Aren't Any Different
Talking about feminism in tech is always difficult. This episode was quite a heated discussion with Kayla Daniels and Jessica D’Amico discussing their opinions about women-orientated groups such as PHPWomen and Girls Who Code. Kayla wrote an excellent article titled Not a shiny unicorn, in which she made several points. * “Somehow, [being female] means I am some kind of oddity. I’ve been met with skepticism, mistrust, and probably the most insulting reaction; complete shock and awe.” * “If I’m offered something, I want it to be because of my accomplishments, and not my sex.” * “Bottom line: Girls aren’t any different. We’re different because people keep making us different.” Essentially saying that specialist groups that try to help nurture female involvement can be seen - by some - to be a little patronising, like girls need special help, etc. Also whenever people freakout in the office because there is “a girl” there, things get weird. Suddenly swea…
May 14, 2014
Episode 24: But is it Web Scale?
This week Ben Edmunds calls in from Portland and Phil Sturgeon calls in from THE FUTURE. They are joined by Steve Corona to discuss Scaling PHP. Most of this conversation centers around Phil and Ben’s horrible facial hair with a few questions thrown Steve’s way to educate us on getting the most out of your LAMP stack. The main takeaways are to stop using Apache and to start using Postgres. Go buy Steve’s book Scaling PHP if you want to be Web Scale.
1 hr 35 min
Apr 10, 2014
Episode 23: VirtPHP - Managing your Herd of ElePHPants
This week Ben Edmunds and Phil Sturgeon are joined by Jacques Woodcock and Jordan Kasper to discuss virtPHP. virtPHP is a tool for managing multiple environments on your development machine. It is similar to Python’s virtualenv or Ruby’s rbenv, but for PHP. Upcoming Conferences Phil will be speaking at PHP South Africa in April. Ben has no idea what he will attend this year. Jacques will likely be speaking at True North PHP later this year. Jordan will be speaking at jQuery UK in May and at Dutch PHP in June.
1 hr 20 min
Mar 26, 2014
Episode 22: The Great Joomla! License Battle of 2014
This week Ben Edmunds is joined by new guest David Stanley and recurring guest Don Gilbert to discuss the latest Joomla! framework licensing drama. Phil was too busy having a real world life to join us this week, boo! Don does a great job of articulating why switching the Joomla! Framework to an LGPL license would be best for everyone and just might cure cancer. Ben tries to play devil’s advocate but eventually can’t even maintain the ruse. David talks now and then, mostly about his new found love of the AeroPress. Cool things of the week Don recommends you check out Gitter.IM and PageKit. David says you should start using AngularJS and Foundation if you want to be one of the cool kids. Ben promotes DivShot and hasn’t received any sponsorship money yet hint hint.
1 hr 7 min
Mar 14, 2014
Episode 21: Attack of the Brazilians
This week author of “Vagrant CookBook” Érika Heidi and serial usergroup creator Rafael Dohms join the show to talk about… well, all of that. Two Brazilian PHP developers now living in Amsterdam, tell their stories and talk about what they do. We cover a lot of conversation connected to Vagrant and some of its upcoming features and functionality. We also talk about provisioning, comparing Chef, Puppet and Ansible. This weeks questions from the audience: What are your thoughts on using Bash as a provisioner? Why or why not use it? – Edmund Zynda Thoughts on the new github Atom editor – Matthew Reschke
1 hr 8 min
Mar 6, 2014
Episode 20: A nice friendly chat about Sculpin, Guzzle and PSR-7
Trying out a slightly more professional format with questions, Phil manages to avoid talking over everyone. Winner! This show has a history of talking about FIG stuff as it is hard to avoid. The group is working on so much cool stuff and prominent figures of the community are involved. We got two more prominent figures, who also happen to be involved with FIG stuff: Beau Simensen lead developer of Sculpin and Michael Dowling lead developer of the wonderful HTTP library Guzzle, who also works at AWS on their PHP SDK. We discussed each of their projects, some of the plans for the future, specifically whats coming up in Guzzle 4 and how that all ties in with the new PSR-7: HTTP Message, currently in “Draft” status. Conveniently Beau, Michael and Phil are the three FIG members who make up the working group for PSR-7 who will all be working to get this “Accepted”. See, it all fits! What are your thoughts on using Bash as a provisioner? Why or why not use it? – Edmund Zynda Th…
1 hr 4 min
Feb 15, 2014
Episode 19: Jeffrey Way, Laracasts and BDFLs
Well known PHP/Laravel nice-guy Jeffrey Way from NetTuts and Laracasts joins regular guest Zack Kitzmiller to discuss the wonderful world of Laravel once again. This time the discussion focuses on some of the silly complaints people have with an otherwise wonderful system, and on the reusability of its packages. * Laracasts - “Hi, I’m Jeffrey. What would you like to learn today?” * Modernizing Legacy Applications In PHP - Get your PHP code under control in a series of small, specific steps * DBAD (Dont Be a Dick) Public License - Something between WTFPL and MIT * Illuminate - The components that make up the Laravel PHP framework * Laravel: Envoy - Elegant SSH tasks for PHP
Jan 29, 2014
Episode 18: PHPDBG, HHVM and Internals
Joe Watkins and Sara Goleman join Phil to make one hell of an episode. These two are not only core contributors to PHP, but are behind a lot of RFCs and decisions that make PHP considerably better. We talk about a whole bunch of awesome stuff, including progress of the named parameters RFC - and the chances of it making in, the new accepted PHP 5.6 feature PHPDBG and what it means for you, HHVM and its relationship to “The PHP”, wether PHP should have a spec for implementations of the language, and a whole bunch of other stuff. Sara knows a thing or two about HHVM because she helped build it. Joe knows a thing or two about PHPDBG because he helped build it. So basically… THEY’RE SMARTER THAN YOU ARE SO LISTEN TO THEM DAMMIT!
Dec 30, 2013
Episode 17: Authors Galore, Conferences and Game Changers
Cal Evans talks with us about some of the great projects he is (and has) been involved with, including training days, writing books, speaking, organising conferences and a bunch more. Seriously, this guy has done a shitload of stuff: * Voices of the Eephant Podcast * NomadPHP * Day Camp 4 Developers * Signaling PHP Book More relevant links: * Build API’s You Won’t Hate - Phil’s latest book * SunshinePHP 2014 Conference * Taylor Otwell’s upcoming NomadPHP Talk * Phil Sturgeon’s previous NomadPHP Talk - There is a coupon code in this episode * PHP Debugger (PHPDBG) Annoyingly in this episode Google Hangouts decided to keep the focus aimed squarely on Phil for the entire show, instead of following the sound of whoever is talking. Nobody needs that much of Phil’s face so we’re skipping the video in this post. It’s mostly just Phil wandering around, drinking two different drinks at the same time, probably picking his nose a bit, who knows.
1 hr 3 min
Dec 2, 2013
Episode 16: Laravel 4.1, Go and the Vagrant Fistfight
Taylor Otwell comes back on the show for a second time and regular guest Zack Kitzmiller turns up to coerce Taylor into letting him speak at LaraCon 2014. Taylor was the first guest we ever had on PHP Town Hall talking about his plans for Laravel 4 before it was even released, so it gives us a great opportunity to look back on the year and see how things have gone. We discuss the changes to Laravel and it’s community, and discuss how various changes in the PHP ecosystem (like PHP 5.3 support becoming less of a demand) could effect Laravel 4.1. We also argue about Go and fight about Vagrant and Chef for a bit.
1 hr 18 min
Nov 13, 2013
Episode 15: The Joomla Framework and the ongoing history of PSR-4
The wonderfully handsome Don Gilbert joins us on our new YouTube Channel for our first live-recording of PHP Town Hall! He’s been working on the Joomla Framework to get it up to scratch with modern standards ready for a Joomla CMS rewrite, much in the same way that EllisLab pulled CodeIgniter out of ExpressionEngine… except for the standards bit, because they didn’t exist and PHP developers were too busy clubbing each other to death over tabs v spaces. We discuss how that whole situation is going, how they’ve been implementing various standards, how did they decide to build a framework instead of use an existing one, how the FIG is going and why Phil fucked up the PSR-4 Acceptance Vote three hours before the vote finished. The next will be done November 18th, 2013 at 9:30pm EST.
1 hr 12 min
Oct 24, 2013
Episode 14: Ship Like a Candian, Eh?
This episode Ben and Phil are joined by Lee Tengum, who has sold more apps than Phil and Ben have even thought of. He founded Pancake Payments which has been featured in Inc. Magazine and is doing very well in the very crowded sector of invoice, time-tracking and basic project management. Lee also works as a freelance developer for local companies in the “city” of Cranbrook, BC, Canadia. We got Lee on to share some of his success stories of building small, simple, useful products that do not try to be the next Facebook but make good money and help him keep his family in food, maple syrup and hockey gear. Making one application that sells for a bazillion dollars is fairly unlikely, so Lee tries to build “mortgage payments” instead, shipping early, iterating fast, bootstrapping the process and focusing on revenue from a very early point. * DearIE6 - It’s been a good run, now please leave. * Hardly Working Start-up Guys * Offload.io - Offload the work you just don’t…
1 hr 5 min
Oct 14, 2013
Episode 13: PHP Internals, Service-orientated Architecture and Language Wars
Some episodes of this show are brought to you after more beers than others. This is one of those episodes where its more, so if you don’t like swearing and listening to a slightly confused Bristolian ramble about points he occasionally forgets then you might want to skip this one. Regardless Ben, Zack K. and Phil discuss the difference between PHP’s organisational structure and lack of BDFL with that of Rails, or Linux. We then discuss service-orientated architecture a little and move onto how you should not box yourself into a single programming language - on your CV or in general as a programmer. * T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM v Sanity * Tornado * League of Extraordinary Packages
Sep 11, 2013
Episode 12: Awesome RFCs and Yolo
1 hr 4 min
Sep 3, 2013
Episode 11: Bike Safety
1 hr 16 min
Jul 24, 2013
Episode 10: Postgres, Bla, Bla, Cider
This time around we’re joined by Selena Deckelmann, who as a Postgres contributor talks to us about some of the burning questions many PHP developers often have about Postgres when considering it as a replacement for the PHP’s defacto-standard relational DB: MySQL. We ask “Why are so few of the “cool kids” using Postgresql?” and “What are the most important differences between MySQL & Postgres?”, and after a bunch of useful discussion on things like true full text search, complex indexes, PostGIS and Foreign Data Wrappers we end up discussing cider and chickens. Standard. * Planet Postgres * Taps - Simple database import/export app * Multicorn - Unified data access library * SQL Alchemy * pgFouine - a PostgreSQL log analyzer * JSON datatype - Store JSON directly in a Postgres field. * Redis4You - Postgres 9.1 foreign data wrapper interface * One man vs. his pet hate in life, Oreo cream - The proper way of solving life’s problems Discuss this on…
Jul 10, 2013
Episode 9: Is OAuth 2 The Devil?
Alex Bilbie and Zackary Blank come on the show to talk about OAuth 2, which has been getting a lot of flamey bad press over the last year or two after the original author quit the project. Why these guys? Well, Alex until recently was working at the University of Lincoln where they did a whole bunch of OAuth 2 work as auth for various API projects at the university. During this time he created the fully spec compliant CodeIgniter OAuth 2.0 Server, which was later replaced with a new generic PHP version for “The League of Extraordinary Packages”. It’s safe to say that Alex knows his shit when it comes to OAuth. Zachary works for a different company on the same floor as Phil, and a client who shall remain nameless has been complaining about OAuth 2, for reasons that we both felt to be… well… silly. He’s been using Alex’s later library for several high-profile projects and is interested in the security angle. * Which OAuth 2.0 grant should I use? * Ben Shaffer’s OAu…
Jun 27, 2013
Episode 8: Use your time machine to go to PeersConf yesterday
In this episode Ben and Phil talk to the super-talented conference organiser Jessica D’Amico, joined by avid conference goer and PHP rockstar Matt Frost. We all gab a bunch about conferences in general, specifically LaraCon, PeersConf and php|tek. We fucked up and didn’t get this episode out soon enough to actually get her any sales for her latest conferences PeersConf (Phil is at PeersConf right now), but you should definitely follow Jess to see what conferences she puts on in the future, they’re always great.
May 18, 2013
Episode 7: Web Sockets Are Fast
Chris Boden joins us to talk about a Ratchet and React. The conversation is basically Ben and Phil asking a bunch of questions about how Ratchet works, pretending we know what is going on while Chris uses lots of words like “concurrency” and “non-blocking”. We decide that PHP is web-scale, event-driven programming is not just for NodeJS hipsters, we all take the “Are You a Brogrammer” test and Michael Wales crashes the show half way through like a ninja. * React: Promise * Are You a Brogrammer * Ubiquity Servers * Feedly * Slim Framework * Deployd
Apr 19, 2013
Episode 6: PSR-X and the Mexican Standoff
PHP-FIG member Paul M. Jones and PHP contributor Anthony Ferrera come on the podcast with Ben, Phil and regular guest Zack Kitzmiller to discuss the new Package Orientated Autoloader Proposal (a.k.a PSR-X), and whether or not PSR’s should ever be amended. Paul explains why the new PSR-X is a handy idea for those who are already PSR-0 users, or even those that aren’t, Zack flips a shit and gets bored of talking about standards wishing everyone could just use Python and their awesome PEP-8, we convince Paul to try swearing for once and we all try badgering Anthony into agreeing with us for some reason. Nobody wins, but the argument brings up a lot of interesting topics and points of view, and that is mostly what we are here for. * PHP-FIG.org * PSR-0: Autoloading Standard * FIG ML - Proposal: Package-Orientated Autoloader * Geocoder * FIG ML - Amending Existing PSRs * OverAPI * jQuery Joyride * reCaptcha * Whoops * Beehive Node Package * Wave Apps
1 hr 15 min
Mar 3, 2013
Episode 5: PHPness Gate, Sexism and Mental Illness
This was a tricky episode where we talk about some big genuine issues that affect PHP developers around the world, and we talked a lot about a t-shirt. After Chris Hartjes cheated on his /dev/hell podcast by joining us in Episode 3, Chris' partner in crime Ed "Funkatron" Finkler decided to get revenge and come on the show. Our other guest Miko Federmann is a brilliant PHP and C developer who is a friend of Phil and Ben. She joins us on the show to discuss the recent hullabaloo known as "PHPness Gate" and the obviously connected issue of sexism in the industry. The second half of the show is Ed talking through how he personally deals with some of his own issues and gives tips to how other people can do the same. Next month we'll be back to bitching about something, telling you about new awesome PHP projects and using lots of swears, promise! * The Male Gaze and The male gaze, revisited * The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom * Block domains for improved…
1 hr 20 min
Feb 15, 2013
Episode 4: PHP's Vision, Beards, and Cake
We made it to episode 4, past the point of no return! In this episode we are joined by Zack Kitzmiller (owner of an awesome beard) and Jose Diaz-Gonzalez (CakePHP developer extraordinaire) as we argue about PHP’s vision and how we think the language should progress in the future. * PHP 6: Pissing in the Wind
Dec 20, 2012
Episode 3: ExpressionEngine StackExchange
ExpressionEngine Pro Anna Brown and Testing Hero Chris Hartjes join Ben Edmunds and Phil Sturgeon to discuss the recent rumblings in the ExpressionEngine community and the new EE StackExchange site. We talk about Inversion of Control (IoC), what it is, why its useful and how it’s done. We also talk a little bit about how PHP has been (and is continuing) to move towards a post-framework world thanks to independant framework-agnostic components - and of course we talk with Chris about unit-testing. * ExpressionEngine StackExchange * /dev/hell Postcast * The Grumpy Programmer’s Guide To Building Testable PHP Applications * Laravel 4 - IoC Controller Injection & Unit Testing * So You Want To Write Tests
Dec 4, 2012
Episode 2: A Node hipster, beardy Python fan, PHP contributor and a Bristolian talk about PHP 5.5
We’re back for an “IRL” episode, with Zack Kitzmiller, John Crepezzi and Anthony Ferrera, discussing PHP 5.5 and the new features it will bring. Note: The sound quality in this one is just awful, so sorry about that. This is the first time I have tried recording a podcast in a group like this, The quality will be considerably better next time around. If you want to skip this one then fair enough, but please come back for the third episode. Phil * PHP: Innocent Villagefolk or a Pillagin’ Pirate? * What PHP 5.5 might look like * ErrorExceptions * Password API for 5.3 * Crucial Web Host (the host with PHP 5.5 alpha1)
1 hr 9 min
Oct 10, 2012
Episode 1: Composer kicks ass, Laravel 4 is coming, and PHP Hosting sucks - guest Taylor Otwell
In the first episode of the PHP Town Hall podcast, Phil Sturgeon and Ben Edmunds rant about how awesome Composer is; chat with Taylor Otwell about the upcoming Laravel 4 release; and whine about how horrible PHP PAAS hosting is.