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New York Times Opinion
Is This How a Cold War With China Begins?
There are few issues on which the dominant consensus in Washington has changed as rapidly in recent years as it has on China. Donald Trump made taking on China a core pillar of his campaign and presidency. And while Joe Biden has toned down the harsh anti-China rhetoric of his predecessor, many of his administration’s policies have gone even further than Trump’s did. In October the Biden administration unveiled sweeping controls on advanced chip exports to China — a move that former Trump officials have described as a sharp break from where their administration’s policies were. And the Biden administration doesn’t intend on stopping there: It plans to roll out further controls that target China’s biotech and clean energy sectors. Meanwhile, Biden has repeatedly voiced such strong declarations of American military support for Taiwan that his own administration has had to walk them back. And, in Congress, China policy is one of the few areas Democrats and Republicans seem willing to work together — almost always in the direction of getting tougher on Beijing. Jessica Chen Weiss is a political scientist and China scholar at Cornell. From August 2021 to last July, she was a senior adviser in the Biden State Department. And she emerged from that experience as one of the most outspoken critics of Washington’s more hawkish turn regarding China. “The more combative approach, on both sides, has produced a mirroring dynamic,” Weiss wrote in a 2022 essay called “The China Trap.” She worries that Beijing and Washington are misreading each other’s ambitions, resulting in a “downward spiral” of mutual aggression that will leave both sides — and the world more broadly — less prosperous and secure. So I asked Weiss to come on the show to help me understand the state of U.S.-China relations and why she thinks it’s headed in the wrong direction. Mentioned: “The China Trap” by Jessica Chen Weiss “A World Safe for Autocracy?” by Jessica Chen Weiss Book Recommendations: Seeking Truth and Hiding Facts by Jeremy L. Wallace Our Missing Hearts by Celeste Ng See No Stranger by Valarie Kaur Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Emefa Agawu, Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld, Rogé Karma and Kristin Lin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris. Original music by Isaac Jones. Mixing by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Pat McCusker and Kristina Samulewski.
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Episode 424: The Horrifying Crimes of Dellen Millard and Mark Smich
Dellen Millard and Mark Smich are two of the world's biggest fuck boys, and unfortunately cold-blooded killers. Dellen, better known as "Dell", had everything in his life served to him on a silver platter and never bothered to finish much of anything. Mark Smich lived a life carrying out petty thefts and selling single cigarettes outside of a high school he no longer went to. The two of these assholes crossed paths due to some catastrophe in the stars and decided that they wanted to steal a truck. Their plan of doing so would lead to murder and an investigation that would uncover several other mysterious deaths. Thank you to the vivacious David White for research assistance References Alamenciak, Tim. 2013. "Shocking Twist in Kidnap Mystery." Toronto Star, May 12. BBC News. 2018. Dellen Millard killed father as he slept and inherited millions. September 24. Accessed January 4, 2023. Brocklehurst, Ann. 2016. Dark Ambition: The Shocking Crime of Dellen Millard & Mark Smich. Toronto, ON: Viking. Casey, Liam. 2019. "Serial killer Dellen Millard appeals conviction and sentence for father's murder." CBC News, January 22. —. 2018. "Wayne Millard Was 'Very Happy' in the Weeks Before His Death, Trial Hears." Globe and Mail, June 18. Clairmont, Susan. 2013. "Police Probe Millard Links to Other Cases." Guelph Mercury, May 18. —. 2022. "Killers Could Get Earlier Parole Eligibility." The Spectator, November 26. —. 2013. "Smich Cowers in Court Before Justice of Peace." The Spectator, May 24. Crib Foreign, Robert, Liam Casey, and Jennifer Pagliaro. 2013. "Jailhouse Interview: Dellen Millard Says He Didn't Kill Tim." London Community News, December 2013. Hayes, Molly. 2013. "Tim Bosma was a 'Hard-Working Country Boy'." Guelph Mercury, May 15. —. 2013. "Search Extends to Waterloo Farm." The Spectator, May 14. —. 2013. "Timothy Bosma Put His Pickup Truck Up for Sale on Two Different Website." The Spectator, May 9. Leitner, Richard. 2013. "Bosma Suspect's 'Ambition' Tattoo Unique: Police." Flamborough Review, May 10. London Community News. 2013. "Have You Seen Tim Bosma?" London Community News, May 8. Magi, Kim. 2013. "Tim Bosma Search: Police Arrest Man in Mississauga." Mississauga News, May 11. Metroland Media. 2013. "'I Am Broken Because Part of Me is Gone'." Brant News, May 15. Peterborough Examiner. 2018. "Courtroom Erupts with Cheers after Millard, Smich Sentenced for Babcock Murder." Peterborough Examiner, February 26. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at
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